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Ive noticed over the last 2 weeks or so that some people have been posting complete and utter tat,some of which is both unfair and bordering on being unfriendly towards the Police.
There are some extremely pleasant people who use this site and who use it for what it was designed for,being fun and informative.
There are however,people on here who are not acting their trueselves and try to disguise there identity by spelling like a 2 year old and constructing sentences as such.
As a result of this behaviour you will find that most, if not all the BiB are no longer posting on here which is a great shame for the genuine people.
All of these people must realise that Speeding is an Offence, not condoned by the Police and the only people who think that its a way of life are the ones that regularly attend the local Magistrates Court or bleet on here about 'Not signing the NIP' whilst trying to convince others to break the Law and wriggle out of receiving the penalty for their incomopetant actions.
Just remember, next time you are involved in a Collision caused by you over inflated ego's who will be coming to your aid!!!!!!!! I bet that you will not vent your anger in this situation.
Remember, Only a Fool bites the hand that feeds him.
I could however lower my own standards and start a tirade of abuse to a small minority but there is no way that i would lower myself to those standards already on open display in previous threads.
BTW. Ted, this in no way reflects on your organisation of the website.
There are some extremely pleasant people who use this site and who use it for what it was designed for,being fun and informative.
There are however,people on here who are not acting their trueselves and try to disguise there identity by spelling like a 2 year old and constructing sentences as such.
As a result of this behaviour you will find that most, if not all the BiB are no longer posting on here which is a great shame for the genuine people.
All of these people must realise that Speeding is an Offence, not condoned by the Police and the only people who think that its a way of life are the ones that regularly attend the local Magistrates Court or bleet on here about 'Not signing the NIP' whilst trying to convince others to break the Law and wriggle out of receiving the penalty for their incomopetant actions.
Just remember, next time you are involved in a Collision caused by you over inflated ego's who will be coming to your aid!!!!!!!! I bet that you will not vent your anger in this situation.
Remember, Only a Fool bites the hand that feeds him.
I could however lower my own standards and start a tirade of abuse to a small minority but there is no way that i would lower myself to those standards already on open display in previous threads.
BTW. Ted, this in no way reflects on your organisation of the website.
i've just read over your post again, and while i agree with some points, others are laughable.
to insinuate that a persons opinion is shameful/shooting from the hip/childish, because of inaccurate spelling and poorly constructed syntax is ludicrous.
although i agree most posts here do tend to suggest that others break the law, if somebody wishes to take up such practice, then surely that is their choice.
this forum is for all things related to speeding, plod and the law. surely you can see that this includes complaints and negatives about POLICING? and in the same vein, ways to "beat the system" if somebody requests such information, no?
i for one wish that more positive things were said, but we dont live in a society which does this do we?
most threads, start with "help..this has happened" or "news..more scameras go up". such "negative advice" which follows which you have a problem with, can equally be replaced by advice from the BiB here aswell.
i havent been reading long, but from my experience, not many BiB defend actions, policies or offer explanations of why a bloke was given a fine for a washer bottle defect (oh whilst the car was off the road).
indeed i forgot that ted has a system employed, which blocks BiB from offering their opinion when such threads open.
fact is, they cant defend such actions and policies whilst the rest of society decays.
if BiB have left here, then its not our fault for voicing our disgust at such policing, its because (like their policing abilities in other areas apart from "motor crime") they just arent interested or cant defend the indefendable.
if im wrong, please shoot me down.
to insinuate that a persons opinion is shameful/shooting from the hip/childish, because of inaccurate spelling and poorly constructed syntax is ludicrous.
although i agree most posts here do tend to suggest that others break the law, if somebody wishes to take up such practice, then surely that is their choice.
this forum is for all things related to speeding, plod and the law. surely you can see that this includes complaints and negatives about POLICING? and in the same vein, ways to "beat the system" if somebody requests such information, no?
i for one wish that more positive things were said, but we dont live in a society which does this do we?
most threads, start with "help..this has happened" or "news..more scameras go up". such "negative advice" which follows which you have a problem with, can equally be replaced by advice from the BiB here aswell.
i havent been reading long, but from my experience, not many BiB defend actions, policies or offer explanations of why a bloke was given a fine for a washer bottle defect (oh whilst the car was off the road).
indeed i forgot that ted has a system employed, which blocks BiB from offering their opinion when such threads open.
fact is, they cant defend such actions and policies whilst the rest of society decays.
if BiB have left here, then its not our fault for voicing our disgust at such policing, its because (like their policing abilities in other areas apart from "motor crime") they just arent interested or cant defend the indefendable.
if im wrong, please shoot me down.
I'm not saying you are right or wrong, but isn't part of the reason some people use this forum down to having the facility to obtain advice,information or another viewpoint from those who on a day today basis work in the Policing arena?
With this in mind, what reason do we have to participate in threads which are either repetitive or sometimes downright offensive towards us - the smoked ham one being a recent example.
If you ran a business which depended on let's say,10% of it's trade on one group of people, would you consider it good business to actively dissuade them from using your company and taking their business elswhere?
Not the best analogy,I know, but I'm sure that some folks out there will see where I'm coming from.
I for one am seriously considering just not bothering anymore - if things continue in this vein, I'm outta here.
The contributors to a forum get the forum they deserve!
With this in mind, what reason do we have to participate in threads which are either repetitive or sometimes downright offensive towards us - the smoked ham one being a recent example.
If you ran a business which depended on let's say,10% of it's trade on one group of people, would you consider it good business to actively dissuade them from using your company and taking their business elswhere?
Not the best analogy,I know, but I'm sure that some folks out there will see where I'm coming from.
I for one am seriously considering just not bothering anymore - if things continue in this vein, I'm outta here.
The contributors to a forum get the forum they deserve!
NO BIBS on here have been personally attacked at an time by me.
However,a few members seem to have the view here that no one can speek against the police.
but the fact is, less and less pepole are trusting the police thease days.
A fourum is suposed to be about debate and free speach.
I could list personal attacks in this tread, but i would not bother.
The BIB here can post anything they like as far as im concered. ITS no good them taking offence at others view unless there are personal attacks direted at them.
as for uses ask for help with get out speeding tickes.
Why should they not ask the question ?
should they only be able too have the BiBS respond
with there view.
If that becomes the case then Its no longer a fourm ITs a notice board.
me personal I will never trust the police as long as live along with many others.
I dont say there all like it, but seen too many that are ever to trust one.
Those that think the sun shines out of there arss are welcome too take that view too. Iwe are not going to tell you not to post your view.
BUT also do not tell us that hold a different view
not to express our views.
personaly Iv got no problems with the BIBS here I dont Know them To coment about them personaly.
I personaly wellcome them to post and am intrest in some of theres views.
but do not have to agree with all there views.
as they do not have too with mine.
I have my view on witch I would trust more than others.
some I may like some not, but I dont post them thorts
aas that just my personal thors.
PS 46TEE If you had bewen around longer, YOU would know IM dislexic and cant spell for shit and my gramer is bad
IM AM NOT TRY TO PRETEND TO BE SOME ONE ELSE.
if you had read a bit more of the fourum you would have know this.
>> Edited by outlaw on Sunday 19th October 15:03
>> Edited by outlaw on Sunday 19th October 15:12
However,a few members seem to have the view here that no one can speek against the police.
but the fact is, less and less pepole are trusting the police thease days.
A fourum is suposed to be about debate and free speach.
I could list personal attacks in this tread, but i would not bother.
The BIB here can post anything they like as far as im concered. ITS no good them taking offence at others view unless there are personal attacks direted at them.
as for uses ask for help with get out speeding tickes.
Why should they not ask the question ?
should they only be able too have the BiBS respond
with there view.
If that becomes the case then Its no longer a fourm ITs a notice board.
me personal I will never trust the police as long as live along with many others.
I dont say there all like it, but seen too many that are ever to trust one.
Those that think the sun shines out of there arss are welcome too take that view too. Iwe are not going to tell you not to post your view.
BUT also do not tell us that hold a different view
not to express our views.
personaly Iv got no problems with the BIBS here I dont Know them To coment about them personaly.
I personaly wellcome them to post and am intrest in some of theres views.
but do not have to agree with all there views.
as they do not have too with mine.
I have my view on witch I would trust more than others.
some I may like some not, but I dont post them thorts
aas that just my personal thors.
PS 46TEE If you had bewen around longer, YOU would know IM dislexic and cant spell for shit and my gramer is bad
IM AM NOT TRY TO PRETEND TO BE SOME ONE ELSE.
if you had read a bit more of the fourum you would have know this.
>> Edited by outlaw on Sunday 19th October 15:03
>> Edited by outlaw on Sunday 19th October 15:12
some very good points made rushjob.
yes, i can see that this forum is the product of whatever we pump into it, but i still assert (and you did aswell) that complaining is a part of this forum (as is getting advice from BiB).
if the BiB cant handle a bit of flak, then they leave..i wish they'd just give it back, or defend a story etc, but they dont...just leave.
there is another thread running at the mo, commending the police. good for that particular officer, well done. i have the UTMOST respect for Genuine policeman who work hard and get no thanks.
surely some of them can see, the negative posts here, and just rise above it, and maybe post a thread regarding an issue of interest/some advice/an explanation. but no...just leave.
besides the "flak" i refer to is not really insulting is it? this is very well moderated and so any abusive comments would get binned, no?
i cant speak for everyone, but i'd imagine that the community here is of above average intelligence, people who arent going to jump on the bandwagon of police-bashing (i wont).
take a look.."oh yeah, a similar thing happened to me" this may be followed by a bit of flak, but from an objective view, it is deserved, no?
to sum up, if we are guilty of driving BiB away, for complaining (occasionally too harshly), then surely they are also guilty of just walking away from an opportunity to re-educate/change attitudes and offer advice, off their own back, no?
>> Edited by dragstar on Sunday 19th October 15:10
yes, i can see that this forum is the product of whatever we pump into it, but i still assert (and you did aswell) that complaining is a part of this forum (as is getting advice from BiB).
if the BiB cant handle a bit of flak, then they leave..i wish they'd just give it back, or defend a story etc, but they dont...just leave.
there is another thread running at the mo, commending the police. good for that particular officer, well done. i have the UTMOST respect for Genuine policeman who work hard and get no thanks.
surely some of them can see, the negative posts here, and just rise above it, and maybe post a thread regarding an issue of interest/some advice/an explanation. but no...just leave.
besides the "flak" i refer to is not really insulting is it? this is very well moderated and so any abusive comments would get binned, no?
i cant speak for everyone, but i'd imagine that the community here is of above average intelligence, people who arent going to jump on the bandwagon of police-bashing (i wont).
take a look.."oh yeah, a similar thing happened to me" this may be followed by a bit of flak, but from an objective view, it is deserved, no?
to sum up, if we are guilty of driving BiB away, for complaining (occasionally too harshly), then surely they are also guilty of just walking away from an opportunity to re-educate/change attitudes and offer advice, off their own back, no?
>> Edited by dragstar on Sunday 19th October 15:10
because no flack is being directed at any of em.
I wouldent normally post what I think of the bibs that post here.
belive it I not I personaly quite like two of them here.
a 3rd maybe
others im not so shaw about.
and I wont mention names because they would not be fair to any of them.
as I maybe wroung about some.
but you wont find me attacking them personal
>> Edited by outlaw on Sunday 19th October 15:19
I wouldent normally post what I think of the bibs that post here.
belive it I not I personaly quite like two of them here.
a 3rd maybe
others im not so shaw about.
and I wont mention names because they would not be fair to any of them.
as I maybe wroung about some.
but you wont find me attacking them personal
>> Edited by outlaw on Sunday 19th October 15:19
Rushjob said:
I'm not saying you are right or wrong, but isn't part of the reason some people use this forum down to having the facility to obtain advice,information or another viewpoint from those who on a day today basis work in the Policing arena?
With this in mind, what reason do we have to participate in threads which are either repetitive or sometimes downright offensive towards us - the smoked ham one being a recent example.
If you ran a business which depended on let's say,10% of it's trade on one group of people, would you consider it good business to actively dissuade them from using your company and taking their business elswhere?
Not the best analogy,I know, but I'm sure that some folks out there will see where I'm coming from.
I for one am seriously considering just not bothering anymore - if things continue in this vein, I'm outta here.
The contributors to a forum get the forum they deserve!
the smoked ham one was a joke at the fact the ham one got closed so quick.
Just pointing how foolish it was for anyone to get upset.
bloddy hell nosence of hummor.
over the ham addres one, that one was amussing
and im shaw the guy want even having a pop that posted it.
if you ask me ppeps getting too touchey.
everyone lighten up for
sake. >> Edited by outlaw on Sunday 19th October 15:29
pies said:
outlaw said:
me personal I will never trust the police as long as live along with many others
had somany bad ones will not trust any i meet on face value
outlaw said:
because no flack is being directed at any of em.
no flack is being directed personaly any anyof the bibs that post here
Sorry i cant make both those quotes fit
that make it clear ?
>> Edited by outlaw on Sunday 19th October 15:32
look, this is going to go round in circles-
my point is this,
if in doing a job, you encounter critiscism, flak (especially in a public-domain) then you either defend your work, argue otherwise and try to influence others, or you can walk away. its up to you.
but if you do walkaway, dont expect people to change their attitudes, minds etc if your not willing to try.
"we dont have to, its not our job", you say? well slap me if im wrong, but are you at the station now? are you working?
or are you sitting at home, as close to a normal civillian as possible?
oh i see, you want to be a BiB when theres a bit of critiscism about and "complain" about it and also say "i dont need this in my spare time". but when theres an opportunity to change this..no "not my job ill tell you what ill do, walk away, because its all their fault", and complain about the BiB-"bashing"
surely you can see the double standards here?
my point is this,
if in doing a job, you encounter critiscism, flak (especially in a public-domain) then you either defend your work, argue otherwise and try to influence others, or you can walk away. its up to you.
but if you do walkaway, dont expect people to change their attitudes, minds etc if your not willing to try.
"we dont have to, its not our job", you say? well slap me if im wrong, but are you at the station now? are you working?
or are you sitting at home, as close to a normal civillian as possible?
oh i see, you want to be a BiB when theres a bit of critiscism about and "complain" about it and also say "i dont need this in my spare time". but when theres an opportunity to change this..no "not my job ill tell you what ill do, walk away, because its all their fault", and complain about the BiB-"bashing"
surely you can see the double standards here?
Outlaw it is your opinion and a few PHer's that no flack is being directed to the BIB on here
It is the opinion of the BIB and many PHer's that alot of flack is being directed to the BIB here.
Many of BIB have left this Forum now,so keep giving them flack and there all be gone, and this forum will revert to just being a moaning shop
Police = BIB on here,guilty by association
It is the opinion of the BIB and many PHer's that alot of flack is being directed to the BIB here.
Many of BIB have left this Forum now,so keep giving them flack and there all be gone, and this forum will revert to just being a moaning shop
Police = BIB on here,guilty by association
dragstar said:
oh i see, you want to be a BiB when theres a bit of critiscism about and "complain" about it and also say "i dont need this in my spare time". but when theres an opportunity to change this..no "not my job ill tell you what ill do, walk away, because its all their fault", and complain about the BiB-"bashing"
surely you can see the double standards here?
No cant see it myself,i leave all my work shite at work i dont expect anybody to do otherwise.
pies said:
Outlaw it is your opinion and a few PHer's that no flack is being directed to the BIB on here
It is the opinion of the BIB and many PHer's that alot of flack is being directed to the BIB here.
Many of BIB have left this Forum now,so keep giving them flack and there all be gone, and this forum will revert to just being a moaning shop
Police = BIB on here,guilty by association
thats rubish no flac has been given to them from me.
Iv given the system flac in general, yes
but not one unkind word to any bib here.
so if there is one that thinks I have attacked them.
then would they kindly explain how where and when how?
as i have said early I quite liked some of em
as this ias getting silly I will post the names of the one that i thort was on the level.
MADCOP
SIVERBACK
tony was growing on me. found alot of his post informative and intresting
and im shaw mad wouldent leave because of me
from what do we know any have stoped posting ?
who stope posting?
to them that have come back and stop being daft.
>> Edited by outlaw on Sunday 19th October 15:48
There's a simple distinction to be made when posting in this forum.
If you've had a bad experience with a police officer then by all means tell us about it and have a whinge. However falling into the trap of slagging off all the police as a result isn't helpful.
As regards the 'ham' joke, it deserved deleting for being a crap joke more than anything
If you've had a bad experience with a police officer then by all means tell us about it and have a whinge. However falling into the trap of slagging off all the police as a result isn't helpful.
As regards the 'ham' joke, it deserved deleting for being a crap joke more than anything
pies said:
dragstar said:
oh i see, you want to be a BiB when theres a bit of critiscism about and "complain" about it and also say "i dont need this in my spare time". but when theres an opportunity to change this..no "not my job ill tell you what ill do, walk away, because its all their fault", and complain about the BiB-"bashing"
surely you can see the double standards here?
No cant see it myself,i leave all my work shite at work i dont expect anybody to do otherwise.
pies, you may not bring your work, home-thats your choice.
but if BiB do, to the point that they are offended by comments on a chatroom designed for all things plod-related then surely they are passionate about there work?
why put such "passion" to waste.
i do honestly want to know a BiB's view on the wsher-bottle debacle.
>> Edited by dragstar on Sunday 19th October 15:48
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