Hit and run
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EmGee

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2 posts

266 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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Friend of mine had her pride and joy, a little 206cc thing, crashed into while parked on a sidestreet. Obviously the car didn't stop. Amazingly a witness came forward, got the make of car, colour, and partial plate, ie letter and all 3 numbers. Info passed to police, but as no-one was hurt they quite honestly told her they weren't going to go to too much effort.
So she's a £500 bill to foot. Of course the DVLA won't help with only a partial plate.

Is there anything that can be done? Any way of tracking the scumbag down?

It's very frustrating. The car was obviously local, and there can't be many B reg Nissans still lurking in Barnsley, yet apparently no chance?

If anyone out there knows how, your comments would be most appreciated.

Great forum by the way, just joined up!

Apache

39,731 posts

304 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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Sorry to hear it mate but from personal experience and from fellow PHers who have been f**ked over in similar circumstances (or worse) you might as well plat fog. BiB are too busy providing govt with stats that no policing gets done, if it does the system is so geriatric and overburdened with PC bollox that the crims have right of access to what ever they want.
Be warned do not try to take the law into your own hands because (as a law abiding upright citizen)they can turn you into a statistic very quickly.

318ti

208 posts

267 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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If the witness had the full index then an NIP would have been sent to the reg keeper and evquiries would have continued from there.
With only a partial plate it becomes a lot harder. It depends on how many characters you have of the index as to whether or not you can get a match. If there are 2 or more numbers missing then a search will not be conducted unless it is for a very serious offence.

beano500

20,854 posts

295 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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EmGee said:
The car was obviously local, and there can't be many B reg Nissans still lurking in Barnsley, yet apparently no chance?


No way would I condone direct action, but surely it can't be too difficult to "track down" the last elements of a complete number plate, then?

318ti

208 posts

267 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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It actually takes a lot of work using the police computer to track it down and even then you can't guarentee that the car is local so it would search the whole system (whole country). You'de be amazed how many cars involved in rta's are not registered as local to the area.

beano500

20,854 posts

295 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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Point taken - I was thinking about a "vigilante" eye out for the offending vehicle. However, it's a bit of a let-down that police systems can't work in favour of the innocent parties in such instances.


Not a criticism of BiB, more the application of resources! BTW.

streaky

19,311 posts

269 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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So, statistically, how many B registration, known colour, Nisans might share the same last three numbers?

I appreciate that this is an impossible question for PHers to answer, but the point is that the number of possible matches reduces with the amount of data provided.

Of course, the car might not be registered with the colour sported at the time and the colour sported now *might* be different again ... but I doubt it.

Streaky

toad_oftoadhall

936 posts

271 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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318ti said:
If the witness had the full index then an NIP would have been sent to the reg keeper and evquiries would have continued from there.


Not sure. An Ex's sister was run over. 20 odd witnesses saw it and many got the number. The car drove round the corner and returned before doing a runner.

She had broken arm and leg, and was unconcious when he came back to look.

Driver was known by some people in the crowd.

Plod chased up with a letter, he claimed the car had been sold. No further action.

No I'm not Inspector Morse, but if I'd have been investigating this one I'd have gone right round to his house. MIght not have worked but better that chasing up by post FFS!

dragstar

3,924 posts

270 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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go back to the accident scene at the same time next week.

its a long shot but if he's local, it may be part of a route/journey.

follow him home, and then do some damage..easy, no?

206xsi

49,326 posts

268 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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My mum was involved in a hit and run accident on A40 Swakeleys roundabout a few weeks ago - she got the full description of the other car including the entire registration.

Police have dropped it already as too much hassle - no money to be made you see...

Julian64

14,325 posts

274 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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I would say your on your own here. After a similar episode with my wife, I was convinced the car was local. I picked up the yellow pages and rang every body repair shop in my area. There were only eighteen!

I did that religiously each week, cos these guys have the memory of a fish. On the third week I scored jackpot. I went to see the car and sure enough, my car colour was on his car. I went directly to the BIB station and couldn't get anyone interested enough to take part , So I took out a private prosecution, and showed them the inital letters we had sent the police with the correct partial number plate. and photos of both cars with matching damage. And guess what. It was decided that there wasn't enough proof. And this was despite the fact that the scrote said 'with all the brain he could muster' I hit a lamppost, when I queried that the lampost left a strange blue colour on his car he just shrugged his shoulders and said the lampost was blue Magistrate didn't think this was important . Only had the pleasure of dragginig him to minor claims court.

dragstar

3,924 posts

270 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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julian, julian..why not kick the duck outta him instead?
while doing that, par-take in a little theft? to cover your costs?

if the legal system is not going to help..ill do it myself.

Julian64

14,325 posts

274 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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Cos dragstar, I'm a doctor, and although I feel like doing that on many occasions, aided by the fact that I'm 6ft 2, ex rugby player, am slightly to the right of attila the hun, and after a morning surgery where every patient reminds me of wayne and waynetta, have very little milk of human kindnest left.

eep breath:

I feel like, as a doctor, I have a duty to act in a way one would expect of my profession.

P.S. it was six years ago.

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

283 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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Very commendable attitude Julian.


Id still want to kick the shit out of him tho


Similar thing happened to me - Police didnt want to know. In the same place, a friends friends car was driven into, driver didnt stop - what he didnt know though, was that the passenger in the car was a WPC - she took off after him, followed him home and grabbed him when he got out of his car. Apparently he was an old bloke and he said

"oh dear, why does this always happen when i go to **town**? Im up in court next week for the same thing"

FFS! Dogs learn quicker than that!

anonymous-user

74 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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You have to laugh at what happens in some of these situations. A friend of mine had someone T-bone his M Roadster and punt it into a canal.

As, by coincidence, he knew the guy that had done it the insurance company claimed it was fraud and took him to court. He was found not guilty but the insurance co. still won't pay out.

Apache

39,731 posts

304 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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As you can see, the law is an ass, ironically the less legal the owner/driver of the vehicle is the less likely you are to getting any recompense legally or insurancewise. Somehow we have managed to allow the 'system' to support that which it is supposed to punish.
You have a lot to lose, a pikey/scrote/slum dweller hasn't

>> Edited by Apache on Thursday 30th October 11:32

anonymous-user

74 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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Apache said:
ironically the less legal the owner/driver of the vehicle is the less likely you are to getting any recompense leagally or insurancewise.


I'd say this is probably part of the problem in this case. I might be making sweeping generalisations but something tells me that a B reg Nissan won't be registered, won't be taxed and won't be insured.

centurion07

10,395 posts

267 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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Slightly O/T but does anybody know what the DVLA are prepared to let you know as regards car/owner details? As in this case, if EmGee got the entire plate, would they tell him any other details such as name/address etc etc a la Gone In 60 Seconds?

206xsi

49,326 posts

268 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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LexSport said:
I'd say this is probably part of the problem in this case. I might be making sweeping generalisations but something tells me that a B reg Nissan won't be registered, won't be taxed and won't be insured.
Which these days is a sensible motoring option!

Apache

39,731 posts

304 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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206xsi said:

LexSport said:
I'd say this is probably part of the problem in this case. I might be making sweeping generalisations but something tells me that a B reg Nissan won't be registered, won't be taxed and won't be insured.

Which these days is a sensible motoring option!


Absolutely, and if it's crossed your mind I'd dare say most scrotes have come to the same conclusion.
There are next to no plod on the roads, cameras can't hurt you, it's a hell of a lot cheaper and you can drive like a twat with impunity