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It reads the index number of an approaching vehicle, and puts it through PNC, by the time the vehicle has approached, you have a record if it is a stovec, or has reports on it...ie..."may be use by mr nasty who is wanted for ... ... etc "
or "Used in ram raid....location...etc" (Maybe the damage would give that away though)
Basically anything that may be of 'interest' including drivers without insurance which can only be a good thing.
They are not used for speeders, and are more of a crime tool than dare I say it 'scamera'
A genuinely good bit of kit.
or "Used in ram raid....location...etc" (Maybe the damage would give that away though)
Basically anything that may be of 'interest' including drivers without insurance which can only be a good thing.
They are not used for speeders, and are more of a crime tool than dare I say it 'scamera'
A genuinely good bit of kit.
I saw the City Police's ANPR in action about five years ago. In the 90 mins I was in their control room it returned 6 positives. Two were stolen vehilces and another was a wanted on warrant. All three drivers arrested and the passenger in the WoW vehicle got himself nicked as well.
I asked the Sergeant in charge if this was a normal day and he said it was, although you can never tell with the City.
A superb piece of kit and likely to be funded due to the number of persons not registering their cars. If there are outstanding speeding tickets for a particular vehicle then the ANPR will pick it up.
My Force set up a mobile one and it was like Christmas.
From a police point of view these devices are much to be prefered to speed cameras as they catch real criminals. The thing about them is that they are completely impartial. The big time thief will not send out the signals that would make a PC do a PNC check, that's what makes them big time.
I used to take out new PCs and would stop every, for instance, fourth Sierra. In half an hour we always came back with a half decent or better job.
By the way, when I was PC (some years ago now), if I was short of a prisoner I would stop a 2-up motorcycle. In more than 50% of the stops there were offences and before long a prisoner or two.
I asked the Sergeant in charge if this was a normal day and he said it was, although you can never tell with the City.
A superb piece of kit and likely to be funded due to the number of persons not registering their cars. If there are outstanding speeding tickets for a particular vehicle then the ANPR will pick it up.
My Force set up a mobile one and it was like Christmas.
From a police point of view these devices are much to be prefered to speed cameras as they catch real criminals. The thing about them is that they are completely impartial. The big time thief will not send out the signals that would make a PC do a PNC check, that's what makes them big time.
I used to take out new PCs and would stop every, for instance, fourth Sierra. In half an hour we always came back with a half decent or better job.
By the way, when I was PC (some years ago now), if I was short of a prisoner I would stop a 2-up motorcycle. In more than 50% of the stops there were offences and before long a prisoner or two.
silverback mike said:
It reads the index number of an approaching vehicle, and puts it through PNC, by the time the vehicle has approached, you have a record if it is a stovec, or has reports on it...ie..."may be use by mr nasty who is wanted for ... ... etc "
or "Used in ram raid....location...etc" (Maybe the damage would give that away though)
Basically anything that may be of 'interest' including drivers without insurance which can only be a good thing.
They are not used for speeders, and are more of a crime tool than dare I say it 'scamera'
A genuinely good bit of kit.
How many ram raiders use their own cars!?? Also how many crooks use their own number plates??
I think you might catch more tax dodgers or non-insured drivers (which is good!) but as for 'Mr Nasty'.. I doubt it.
r32 said:
silverback mike said:
It reads the index number of an approaching vehicle, and puts it through PNC, by the time the vehicle has approached, you have a record if it is a stovec, or has reports on it...ie..."may be use by mr nasty who is wanted for ... ... etc "
or "Used in ram raid....location...etc" (Maybe the damage would give that away though)
Basically anything that may be of 'interest' including drivers without insurance which can only be a good thing.
They are not used for speeders, and are more of a crime tool than dare I say it 'scamera'
A genuinely good bit of kit.
How many ram raiders use their own cars!?? Also how many crooks use their own number plates??
I think you might catch more tax dodgers or non-insured drivers (which is good!) but as for 'Mr Nasty'.. I doubt it.
I beg to differ R32, I agree the 'used in a ram raid' was a bit daft. However, there was a certain person who lent his 'mate' his cavalier, who succeeded in a handbag snatch (robbery). The details were put on Pnc. This car was anpr'd, turned up the details.
Registered keeper was spoken to, who bubbled up his mate, who was arrested. It went to ID Parade, he was picked out.
1 Sentenced for robbery nice and quickly because of ANPR.
If you are wondering who dealt with the case, it was me, so I have first hand knowledge of the system and how well it can work.
However, you are also very correct insaying that it will catch non insured drivers, it does indeed do so.
But what it is very good at is catching people driving stolen cars. Literally as soon as the number runs through the box you get the word "stovec" which I am sure you know is a stolen vehicle.
Have you really got an R32? If so, whats it like?
>> Edited by silverback mike on Monday 3rd November 09:52
silverback mike said:
I beg to differ R32, I agree the 'used in a ram raid' was a bit daft. However, there was a certain person who lent his 'mate' his cavalier, who succeeded in a handbag snatch (robbery). The details were put on Pnc. This car was anpr'd, turned up the details.
Registered keeper was spoken to, who bubbled up his mate, who was arrested. It went to ID Parade, he was picked out.
1 Sentenced for robbery nice and quickly because of ANPR.
If you are wondering who dealt with the case, it was me, so I have first hand knowledge of the system and how well it can work.
However, you are also very correct insaying that it will catch non insured drivers, it does indeed do so.
But what it is very good at is catching people driving stolen cars. Literally as soon as the number runs through the box you get the word "stovec" which I am sure you know is a stolen vehicle.
Have you really got an R32? If so, whats it like?
I hope this is the case, I just remember back to having my last car (Audi TT) stolen last december. I know they had changed the plate on it almost immediately after stealing it (presumably a cloned legal one). In which case the ANPR wont show a thing - and if the crooks are clever and know ANPR is out there, surely this will be a more common occurance?
In my case DNA of the thieves was found in the car, yet it couldn't be proved they were driving and of course they didn't know who was.. so no conviction. Shame.
As for the R32 - I love it! Such a change from the TT - it handles!
Love the engine noise (although not in the league as TVRs, the 3.2 still sounds loverly) and I still can't believe how well it handles! Still at least I don't have to drive with ear plugs in like the last few TVR drivers I have seen on the motorway
silverback mike said:
Top idea Hornet, but it would need someone nearby all the time to jump on them.
Agreed, although I'd wager a % would just jump ship leaving the car there - might be an idea for helping recover stolen vehicles though. I assume there's a national database of stolen vehicles - have a camera at the forecourt entrance linked to this database, which would then flag up the stolen car in much the same way stolen credit/debit cards get alerted. Obviously impractical to have police on hand to swoop in and sort it out, but at the very least you'd get CCTV images of the driver and build up a pattern of where these stolen cars are, which is intelligence that could be used in other operations. How many times is a stolen car an indication of something more sinister? I'd imagine this sort of operation would have an impact of overall crime clear up rates too.
Don't suppose it would stop the organised "steal to order" boys, as I suspect they're a tad more canny than that, but Johnny Scrote is going to put petrol in his knocked off motor full of hot DVD players before too long....
it probably wouldn't catch the criminals who steal cars for a living, but it will be very good for non-insured, non-taxed, non-MOT'd (one assumes you can read missing MOT's as well?). Match that up to the BiB own eyes and it's damned fine!
Does it read all the plates automatically, or only ones you point it at?
Where does it point - straight ahead or wide range (i.e. if some scrote is turning a corner and you are driving straight ahead can it still read it?)?
Does it scan everywhere on the back of the car, or only in a specific area (i.e. where a number plate is meant to be - mines really low on the marlin, some people have them in the back-window if they have fallen off...)?
Can it read cars coming towards you as well, or only those travelling in the same direction?
What sort of speed can it read at (i.e. can a stationery camera read cars on a motor-way)?
One presumes it doesn't flash so it won't trigger those reflective number plates you can buy, but then can it be used in the dark? What about if the number plate lights are out, or the car is driving towards you?
Just pure interest, and I appreciate if the BiB can't answer any of these (don't know who I am, never mind other people reading it). Still, kinda cool technology, would be interested in finding out exactly how it works (i.e. the electricals of it), although again, I guess these are going to be pretty closely gaurded!
Does it read all the plates automatically, or only ones you point it at?
Where does it point - straight ahead or wide range (i.e. if some scrote is turning a corner and you are driving straight ahead can it still read it?)?
Does it scan everywhere on the back of the car, or only in a specific area (i.e. where a number plate is meant to be - mines really low on the marlin, some people have them in the back-window if they have fallen off...)?
Can it read cars coming towards you as well, or only those travelling in the same direction?
What sort of speed can it read at (i.e. can a stationery camera read cars on a motor-way)?
One presumes it doesn't flash so it won't trigger those reflective number plates you can buy, but then can it be used in the dark? What about if the number plate lights are out, or the car is driving towards you?
Just pure interest, and I appreciate if the BiB can't answer any of these (don't know who I am, never mind other people reading it). Still, kinda cool technology, would be interested in finding out exactly how it works (i.e. the electricals of it), although again, I guess these are going to be pretty closely gaurded!
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Be very scared they soon switch it for speeding between the two blue posts, you have seen em havent you.
Be very scared they soon switch it for speeding between the two blue posts, you have seen em havent you.
cptsideways said:But the blue posts are owned and operated by TrafficMaster, and they're always quick to point out that they're not used to catch speeders and they only read the middle four characters of the registration.
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Be very scared they soon switch it for speeding between the two blue posts, you have seen em havent you.
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