Ah - what could have been
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There I am feeling like a nurturing father!
I stand there in my cell area looking at (sexist I klnow) these young women being bri=ought in for theft and credit card deceptions and they are lookers with a brain.
The custody officer says are you on any medication and they say----
Yes your right "Im taking heroin"!
I cant help thinking what these people might have made of their lives had the brown stuff not gripped them.
What a waste!
Anyway - next!
I stand there in my cell area looking at (sexist I klnow) these young women being bri=ought in for theft and credit card deceptions and they are lookers with a brain.
The custody officer says are you on any medication and they say----
Yes your right "Im taking heroin"!
I cant help thinking what these people might have made of their lives had the brown stuff not gripped them.
What a waste!
Anyway - next!
gemini said:
There I am feeling like a nurturing father!
I stand there in my cell area looking at (sexist I klnow) these young women being bri=ought in for theft and credit card deceptions and they are lookers with a brain.
The custody officer says are you on any medication and they say----
Yes your right "Im taking heroin"!
I cant help thinking what these people might have made of their lives had the brown stuff not gripped them.
What a waste!
Anyway - next!
My two closest freinds got caught up with it in their teens, one of them was dead five years later after getting clean, getting married and having a kid, she got back into it and overdosed. The other one is still unwelcome at his parents house because they still feel they can't trust him. I feel the same way after he stole my drivers license and used it to get cab driving work while I was out of the country...
Heroin is bad....
True words, every one of these girls has parents who will die a little inside every time they see their kids. Until we have a goverment who acts on drug pushers with life sentences then we will never reduce this evil. The profits are so large whilst the punishments are so small for the pushers. China has the right idea pushers are executed, they have little drugs problems compared with us.
spaximus said:
True words, every one of these girls has parents who will die a little inside every time they see their kids. Until we have a goverment who acts on drug pushers with life sentences then we will never reduce this evil. The profits are so large whilst the punishments are so small for the pushers. China has the right idea pushers are executed, they have little drugs problems compared with us.
YOUR SO WROUNG M8
locking pushers as you call em up. wont solve anything
most small time dealers are you users there selfs.
paying for there own habit.
the big boys at the top are never seen. too many bent conections high up.
the only way to stop it is legalise all drugs.
it wont make any more fools take it.
them that do would anyway.
plus take heroin as an example.
in its self its not that harmful most of the health related problem with it are,caused by the shit that gets cut in it. on the street, that cause most of the damage.
pluss most overdoses are caused by the varing purity of it on the street.
If you legalise it of course more people will take it, as it will be more freely available and people will think it must be safe to take as it is legal.
Now I appreciate alcohol is legal but it is a kind of drug, but I never heard of anyone dying from drinking 1 dodgy pint of Stella. Plenty of people die from drugs and I cant see how legalising it will make it that much safer.
People will always get greedy and cut other stuff into it to make an extra few quid.
Now I appreciate alcohol is legal but it is a kind of drug, but I never heard of anyone dying from drinking 1 dodgy pint of Stella. Plenty of people die from drugs and I cant see how legalising it will make it that much safer.
People will always get greedy and cut other stuff into it to make an extra few quid.
[quote= outlaw}the only way to stop it is legalise all drugs.
it wont make any more fools take it.[/quote]
Totally agree - maybe tax it too - a small area of common ground between us and Mad Brunners.
But it won't happe. TYhe status Quo will be preserved as too many way higher than Brunstrom in the USA and maybe here as well are making massive amounts of money from it.
it wont make any more fools take it.[/quote]
Totally agree - maybe tax it too - a small area of common ground between us and Mad Brunners.
But it won't happe. TYhe status Quo will be preserved as too many way higher than Brunstrom in the USA and maybe here as well are making massive amounts of money from it.
Very controversial subject I know, but there are many lethal substances one can legally buy and consume. How often do you have people dying abusing them?
If it's legal it's not cool anymore. It's then seen for what it really is: stupid and damaging.
Health insurance would probably be invalid for people on drugs, so no big incentive for everyone to even 'have a go'
I say legalise them!
>> Edited by justme on Wednesday 5th November 08:54
If it's legal it's not cool anymore. It's then seen for what it really is: stupid and damaging.
Health insurance would probably be invalid for people on drugs, so no big incentive for everyone to even 'have a go'
I say legalise them!
>> Edited by justme on Wednesday 5th November 08:54
spaximus said:
True words, every one of these girls has parents who will die a little inside every time they see their kids. Until we have a goverment who acts on drug pushers with life sentences then we will never reduce this evil. The profits are so large whilst the punishments are so small for the pushers. China has the right idea pushers are executed, they have little drugs problems compared with us.
Agree with the abovee, although I see you point Outlaw, that is, you will never get the man at the top, true, but take away the man at the tops ability to sell to the man at the bottom and you've got him, this system stands and works much better in China than Amsterdams system on dope, which IMO is a very seedy place to be, shame because the actual building architecture and orientation of the town is beautifull.
Nik
I agree with Outlaw on this subject.
Legalising the drugs allows you to have some control over who, where, when and what quality the drugs are.
As Outlaw said, alot of the problems with the illegal drus is the varying quality and the dangerous, sometimes downright lethal, stuff that they cut in to them to increase profits.
Keeping drugs illegal only makes money for the trafficers and criminals whilst costing the rest of society a fortune.
There maybe a few more people take them but this is counter balanced by the better control and safety. Similar to the improved safety of current addicts with the free needles programs.
Unfortunately all drugs that have sort of mind altering effects (caffiene, tobaco, alcohol, canabis, heroin, speed, cocaine etc etc) are dangerous and should be only be used with the full knowledge of the likely effects and problems. However, noone is prepared to do this and the kids don't listen to anyone but the pusher who say "go ahead it's a great buzz".
Legalising the drugs allows you to have some control over who, where, when and what quality the drugs are.
As Outlaw said, alot of the problems with the illegal drus is the varying quality and the dangerous, sometimes downright lethal, stuff that they cut in to them to increase profits.
Keeping drugs illegal only makes money for the trafficers and criminals whilst costing the rest of society a fortune.
There maybe a few more people take them but this is counter balanced by the better control and safety. Similar to the improved safety of current addicts with the free needles programs.
Unfortunately all drugs that have sort of mind altering effects (caffiene, tobaco, alcohol, canabis, heroin, speed, cocaine etc etc) are dangerous and should be only be used with the full knowledge of the likely effects and problems. However, noone is prepared to do this and the kids don't listen to anyone but the pusher who say "go ahead it's a great buzz".
I can see your point too Outlaw and I guess your experiance will make you more aware of the drug culture than myself. however my point is that pushers small or large can be caught and dealt with, it is that we have a 
ed up legal system which fails to bring true justice to bear. How many times have guilty people got off on technacalities, then if the police continue to pursue them they are victimised. I have seen the mysery that seeing your child slide into the grip of these vile people causes to parants.and you are right there is a Glamour to some in being involved in illegal acts but is that any reason to make it legal? No, we are on a slippery slope. when the police and judical system goes after the drug trade in genral with the same vigour they persecute motorists then they will see progress.
ed up legal system which fails to bring true justice to bear. How many times have guilty people got off on technacalities, then if the police continue to pursue them they are victimised. I have seen the mysery that seeing your child slide into the grip of these vile people causes to parants.and you are right there is a Glamour to some in being involved in illegal acts but is that any reason to make it legal? No, we are on a slippery slope. when the police and judical system goes after the drug trade in genral with the same vigour they persecute motorists then they will see progress.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff