West Yorks Scammer survey
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jeffreyarcher

Original Poster:

675 posts

268 months

deltaf

6,806 posts

273 months

Saturday 8th November 2003
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jeffreyarcher said:
is at www.safetycameraswestyorkshire.co.uk/pressr.asp


Theyre gonna love me..

puggit

49,330 posts

268 months

Saturday 8th November 2003
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Done - very high tech way of doing things!!!

streaky

19,311 posts

269 months

Saturday 8th November 2003
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deltaf said:

jeffreyarcher said:
is at <a href="http://www.safetycameraswestyorkshire.co.uk/pressr.asp">www.safetycameraswestyorkshire.co.uk/pressr.asp</a>



Theyre gonna love me..
deltaf - don't keep us in suspense ... Streaky

xsaravtr

801 posts

282 months

Saturday 8th November 2003
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Mmmm...

WestYorkshireScameraPartnership said:

Please answer them honestly, then “copy, cut and paste” your answers back to us via the “comments/contact us” page of this website. Please include an e-mail address or postal address in your reply, or it cannot be counted.


You'd think with all that money they could come up with a better system than this.

deltaf

6,806 posts

273 months

Saturday 8th November 2003
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Best part here is, they want US to answer honestly, but they wont answer ours in a similar manner!

Radical suggestion for them: You be open and honest(totally) and transparent, and we'll consider being the same. Until then, go yerselves!
Nuff said methinks.

Bonce

4,339 posts

299 months

Monday 10th November 2003
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I sent them a rant with my survey and I got a reply!

Bonce said:

I think your survey is fairly blinkered in suggesting that that the only cause of accidents is speed, and to reduce casualties you need to lower speeds. That is simply not the case. Education and training are required to bring the standards of driving up. If people think that they are driving safely just because they are at or below the speed limit (regardless of other factors such as weather, traffic, and road surface conditions) then your partnership will never succeed in reducing casualties - you must educate people that INAPPROPRIATE USE OF SPEED can be dangerous. Furthermore you must train people to obey ALL ASPECTS of the highway code, pay attention to what they are doing, and punish them for offenses other than speeding - something that cameras are never going to be able to do.


West Yorkshire Safety Cameras said:

You're right, Barnaby, a brief survey of this nature is NOT designed to go into great depth, it can only scratch the surface on a limited subject matter. Which is why, for this first web survey and at the suggestion of a web visitor, we elected just to get opinion on perceptions/understanding of the role of speed control safety cameras in encouraging motorists to respect the speed limits.

Everything you say about education and training is true and is fully supported by West yorkshire Casualty reduction Partnership ... which is why the website exists as one of numerous outlets for help, guidance, education and information to all road users about keeping themselves and those around them as safe as possible.

I get the impression we also violently agree that if people think they're safe just because they are driving at or below the limit without regard to other factors such as weather etc, then they shouldn't behind the wheel in the first place!

For the record, though, our partnership is succeeding in reducing casualties, and there's been a lot of publicity recently in the local media about some of our achievements.

People ARE trained in all aspects of the Highway Code... when they're learning to drive. It's only after they've passed their test that so many get into bad habits like breaking the speed limit, whereby they put us all at risk of death and injury.

Thank you for participating in our survey. We plan to publish the results in the next week or so.We are always delighted to hear from concerned citizens like you, who recognise that the purpose of speed control safety cameras is to save lives and reduce the number of casualties on our roads.

If we may, we'd like to contact you again from time to time to inform you about other safety camera initiatives... and if you have any other concerns, questions or comments in the meantime, please do not hesitate to contact me, or visit our website www.safetycameraswestyorkshire.com

Best wishes,

Philip J Gwynne
PR Manager, West Yorkshire Safety Cameras

deltaf

6,806 posts

273 months

Monday 10th November 2003
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Pay no attention to this Philip Gwynne moron. He burns the candle at both ends!
He tries to play it both ways at the same time.

I contacted him with a reasonable(for me at any rate) email which he broadly tended to agree with.

Yet when he went on the radio, he came across as the "all speeders should be hung" type of scumbag.
These basts have got more shite than a sewage farm.
Theye basically politicians that arent very good at lying...and not paid as much. But theyre still of the same ilk.
Gits.