Specs cameras.

[chris43]

I read on here some time ago that the Specs system is not recognised by radar detectors.
Wrong!
GPS detectors do as my Snooper did last week on the M6 thank f***k

[Trefor]

But there's a difference between a GPS 'detector' as you call it and a radar detector isn't there. GPS systems work on knowing where you are and warning you as you approach fixed points known to be a camera etc. Radar detectors only 'listen' for various bands of radar signal. Of course some GPS devices have built in radatr detectors such as the latest Road Angel.

[chris43]

Trefor said:

But there's a difference between a GPS 'detector' as you call it and a radar detector isn't there. GPS systems work on knowing where you are and warning you as you approach fixed points known to be a camera etc. Radar detectors only 'listen' for various bands of radar signal. Of course some GPS devices have built in radatr detectors such as the latest Road Angel.

Yup!
You sure ain't wrong there! So?

[macone]

I think the point is that you cannot detect Specs, don't care what you have fitted!!!

The cameras don't emit anything, they are cameras with image recognition (number plates) and they time the passage between cameras - don't need laser/X-band/C-band or annything. Pass a number of them fast enough and your average triggers them, then the linkage is to DVLA and Bob's your Father's brother.

What you actually hope has happened is that whomsoever produced your "Road Angel or whatever etc" Database has included what "they" believe are Specs camera locations !!!

The latest wheeze is that Specs is on the M4 - Wrong, but maybe it will shortly !! At this rate we'll all have to travel at the recognised speed limits on every road !!!!

T McM

[rs1952]

macone said:

The latest wheeze is that Specs is on the M4 - Wrong, but maybe it will shortly !! At this rate we'll all have to travel at the recognised speed limits on every road !!!!

So, to stop "Orwell's 1984" happening in 2004, what do we do?

To me, the answer seems simple (but perhaps I'm a naive old git ...) Fight back:-

1. Letters to MPs and "Tax Gathering Partnerships" pointing out the error of their ways ..... Especially MPs - its not worth their while ignoring too many letters from constituents - they don't get re-elected if they upset their electorate;

2. Never pay a fixed penalty; NIP admission signed or unsigned - it makes no difference. Make 'em take you to court (especially of your transgression is minimal - say, 36 in a 30, 80 in a 70 - whatever).

3. When you get a date for the hearing, plead not guilty and call some witnesses - especially the scamera operator - if nothing else, it'll keep the bard off the road for the day.

4. In short, make life difficult for 'em. If enough people simply didn't accept their £60 tax bill and 3 points, and made 'em fight for the money through the system, the whole magistrates court process would grind to a halt.

5. Once that system had ground to a halt, people guilty of "important" crimes would also be caught in the backlog - sit back and see what happens when politicians have to go on TV and explain why the muggers, the crack dealers and the burglars are clogging up the prisons on remand because the courts have a backlog of cases caused by people who are pleading not guilty to doing 58 in a 50 ......

I have a dream, my friends, I have a dream ....



>> Edited by rs1952 on Sunday 9th November 23:14

[cptsideways]

The cameras do have infrared illuminators, 150 led's behind the black lens. So in theory you could detect them. Only problem is you'd be detecting every other PIPS technology camera device thats mounted every 4km on every main road in the uk for trafficmaster. The exact same units by the way!, just different software.

Be scared about this stuff.

[rs1952]

cptsideways said:

Be scared about this stuff.

Declan - see previous post!

[TT Tim]

I hope that anyone who's genuinely worried about this and other civil liberty infringementas and descrimination against the UK motorist joins: www.abd.org.uk

Tim

[richard sails]

cptsideways said:

The cameras do have infrared illuminators, 150 led's behind the black lens. So in theory you could detect them. Only problem is you'd be detecting every other PIPS technology camera device thats mounted every 4km on every main road in the uk for trafficmaster. The exact same units by the way!, just different software. Be scared about this stuff.

I was thinking about this a few days ago, imaging systems such as SPECS require very powerful IR illuminators pointing horizontally along the road, also I am told (but don't know if its true) that Scamera Vans use big IR illuminators at night. A CCD device (small cheapish video camera) with a IR transparent filter in front would see these sources very well, it would be possible to build a small detector system that would give advance warning of a powerful IR signal ahead. I was wondering what the false detection rate would be like, i.e. how many other IR hotspots would be on the roads?

I may have to rig up a couple of video camera's (one with a filter) and make some test recording's.

Anyone else experimented with this yet??




>> Edited by richard sails on Monday 10th November 13:24

[Pigeon]

...and relatedly... anyone know where to get the dye with which the plastic of Playstation CDs is dyed?