Military Police Powers?
Discussion
I was driving on the M40 the other day and off in the distance I saw a blue police car with all the livery with blue lights like any other normal police car. As I get closer, on the side of the vehicle it read Military Police. What power do they have over the civillian population. Would he be allowed to pull me over for speeding?
M3crab said:
If they did try to pull you it's a case of impersonating
a police officer.
How is that possible? a police officer.
They just have no jurisdiction. That said, if they wrote a statement regarding something they saw you do im sure it would carry a lot more weight, than say, you, oh, or me.
If they pulled you over, which im sure they wouldnt do unless you were on MOD grounds, you would be entitled to make a complaint...
fizz876 said:
I was driving on the M40 the other day and off in the distance I saw a blue police car with all the livery with blue lights like any other normal police car. As I get closer, on the side of the vehicle it read Military Police. What power do they have over the civillian population. Would he be allowed to pull me over for speeding?
They have no powers until martial law is declared....... Or you are on a military base.On a military road, like a lot of the roads in Aldershot, probably more power than regular BiB.
Have you ever been stopped by squaddies armed with automatic weapons at a military police roadblock? I have, and it's a little daunting to be honest.
Signs indicate you are liable, at any time to be stopped and/or searched whilst on the military roads.
Steve
Have you ever been stopped by squaddies armed with automatic weapons at a military police roadblock? I have, and it's a little daunting to be honest.
Signs indicate you are liable, at any time to be stopped and/or searched whilst on the military roads.
Steve
I was stopped at a roadblock in Aldershot Military Town years back with a boot full of a whole team's cricket kit. Got out and the soldier asked me to open the boot. He took one look and went "Aw F
ck!"
Ever seen a squaddie try to search a boot full of bags with a gun in one hand. Took him forever.
ck!"Ever seen a squaddie try to search a boot full of bags with a gun in one hand. Took him forever.
stemll said:
I was stopped at a roadblock in Aldershot Military Town years back with a boot full of a whole team's cricket kit. Got out and the soldier asked me to open the boot. He took one look and went "Aw Fck!"
Ever seen a squaddie try to search a boot full of bags with a gun in one hand. Took him forever.
He must have been too proud to ask you to hold the gun for him.ck!"Ever seen a squaddie try to search a boot full of bags with a gun in one hand. Took him forever.
M.P.'s can be animals when sorting drunk squaddies.
Over and done with in a flash. Shame regular bib can't operate in the same fashion.
And best not to get into any discussion with them when they stop and search your vehicle. They don't give a sh!t and the loaded weapon is unnerving.
Got caught by the M.P.'s using a tank track as short cut across Salisbury Plain. Could only give me a verbal as I was a civilian lol
Over and done with in a flash. Shame regular bib can't operate in the same fashion.
And best not to get into any discussion with them when they stop and search your vehicle. They don't give a sh!t and the loaded weapon is unnerving.
Got caught by the M.P.'s using a tank track as short cut across Salisbury Plain. Could only give me a verbal as I was a civilian lol
bleesh said:
On a military road, like a lot of the roads in Aldershot, probably more power than regular BiB.
And some of the roads around Aldershot that you might not think are military roads, are.nail_it said:
M.P.'s can be animals when sorting drunk squaddies.
A lead-weighted pickaxe handle is the "baton" of choice for most MPs.Military Police have no jurisdiction off base. They will hand over to the civilian police. SIB (and related functions in other branches) have no jurisdiction over civilians off base. They too will hand off to the civilian police. On-base, MPs and SIB have full jurisdiction, but might still hand off to civilian police whilst retaining a watching brief (e.g. sit in on interviews) and with the authority to take back the case.
Streaky
Edited by streaky on Sunday 22 March 08:22
Many, many years ago there was a small group of us who used to spend the odd Saturday afternoon getting to 'know' the Eppynt Ranges near Brecon. Even then a well known place for rallying. You know the sort of thing - get to know your local stages and hope to claim a few big scalps when they came down to do the Welsh, RAC Rally etc.
Running mainly BDA powered Mk1 or Mk11 Escorts we felt confident that we wouldn't get caught by the Army in their 'hi-speed' Landies. After 'escaping' several times confidence grows - the naivety of youth.
One particular Saturday we saw a Landie in the distance and thought - "No probs, just cut across Devil's and Deer's Leaps (the scene of the carnage on Wales Rally GB a few years back), into the forest and eventually out on to the A40 and away.
Came over a crest enthusiastically only to spot 2 Landies complete with armed MPs blocking the exit and before we could do anything another Landie appeared behind us also bearing armed MPs. No where to go.
Still with the brashness of youth were quite confident we knew our rights and would soon be on our way.
It was explained in short order that basically the only 'rights' we had were those they decided to give us and were bundled off to Brecon Barracks to be eventually interviewed by the Range Commander.
What a b*ll*cking!!!! Eventually let us go in the early hours of Sunday morning but kept the cars saying we would have to return the following Tuesday at, iirc 3.00pm. Awkward as it would mean a day off work, a 80 mile round trip, sorting lifts etc.
No alternative but to comply if we wanted our cars back. Tuesday arrives and we duly present ourselves only to be told he hadn't made a decision whether to return our cars or not yet and come back tomorrow at the same time. No, a phonecall would be no good, we had to be there in person.
Wednesday, after another king sized b*ll*cking we were told that we could have the cars back - but on Friday!!!!
Looking back, you can see he was using the 'embuggerance' factor to make sure we didn't do it again without taking down official channels which no doubt would have been worse for us.
Sure as hell taught us a lesson though.
BB
Running mainly BDA powered Mk1 or Mk11 Escorts we felt confident that we wouldn't get caught by the Army in their 'hi-speed' Landies. After 'escaping' several times confidence grows - the naivety of youth.
One particular Saturday we saw a Landie in the distance and thought - "No probs, just cut across Devil's and Deer's Leaps (the scene of the carnage on Wales Rally GB a few years back), into the forest and eventually out on to the A40 and away.
Came over a crest enthusiastically only to spot 2 Landies complete with armed MPs blocking the exit and before we could do anything another Landie appeared behind us also bearing armed MPs. No where to go.
Still with the brashness of youth were quite confident we knew our rights and would soon be on our way.
It was explained in short order that basically the only 'rights' we had were those they decided to give us and were bundled off to Brecon Barracks to be eventually interviewed by the Range Commander.
What a b*ll*cking!!!! Eventually let us go in the early hours of Sunday morning but kept the cars saying we would have to return the following Tuesday at, iirc 3.00pm. Awkward as it would mean a day off work, a 80 mile round trip, sorting lifts etc.
No alternative but to comply if we wanted our cars back. Tuesday arrives and we duly present ourselves only to be told he hadn't made a decision whether to return our cars or not yet and come back tomorrow at the same time. No, a phonecall would be no good, we had to be there in person.
Wednesday, after another king sized b*ll*cking we were told that we could have the cars back - but on Friday!!!!
Looking back, you can see he was using the 'embuggerance' factor to make sure we didn't do it again without taking down official channels which no doubt would have been worse for us.
Sure as hell taught us a lesson though.
BB
BigBob said:
Many, many years ago there was a small group of us who used to spend the odd Saturday afternoon getting to 'know' the Eppynt Ranges near Brecon. Even then a well known place for rallying. You know the sort of thing - get to know your local stages and hope to claim a few big scalps when they came down to do the Welsh, RAC Rally etc.
Running mainly BDA powered Mk1 or Mk11 Escorts we felt confident that we wouldn't get caught by the Army in their 'hi-speed' Landies. After 'escaping' several times confidence grows - the naivety of youth.
One particular Saturday we saw a Landie in the distance and thought - "No probs, just cut across Devil's and Deer's Leaps (the scene of the carnage on Wales Rally GB a few years back), into the forest and eventually out on to the A40 and away.
Came over a crest enthusiastically only to spot 2 Landies complete with armed MPs blocking the exit and before we could do anything another Landie appeared behind us also bearing armed MPs. No where to go.
Still with the brashness of youth were quite confident we knew our rights and would soon be on our way.
It was explained in short order that basically the only 'rights' we had were those they decided to give us and were bundled off to Brecon Barracks to be eventually interviewed by the Range Commander.
What a b*ll*cking!!!! Eventually let us go in the early hours of Sunday morning but kept the cars saying we would have to return the following Tuesday at, iirc 3.00pm. Awkward as it would mean a day off work, a 80 mile round trip, sorting lifts etc.
No alternative but to comply if we wanted our cars back. Tuesday arrives and we duly present ourselves only to be told he hadn't made a decision whether to return our cars or not yet and come back tomorrow at the same time. No, a phonecall would be no good, we had to be there in person.
Wednesday, after another king sized b*ll*cking we were told that we could have the cars back - but on Friday!!!!
Looking back, you can see he was using the 'embuggerance' factor to make sure we didn't do it again without taking down official channels which no doubt would have been worse for us.
Sure as hell taught us a lesson though.
BB
The good old Militay f*ck around factor - that story has just brought back fond memories of the F around factor from my Army and RAF days. Officers and non-commissioned officers could always find a way to f*ck with you if you f*cked with them without needing to get physical.Running mainly BDA powered Mk1 or Mk11 Escorts we felt confident that we wouldn't get caught by the Army in their 'hi-speed' Landies. After 'escaping' several times confidence grows - the naivety of youth.
One particular Saturday we saw a Landie in the distance and thought - "No probs, just cut across Devil's and Deer's Leaps (the scene of the carnage on Wales Rally GB a few years back), into the forest and eventually out on to the A40 and away.
Came over a crest enthusiastically only to spot 2 Landies complete with armed MPs blocking the exit and before we could do anything another Landie appeared behind us also bearing armed MPs. No where to go.
Still with the brashness of youth were quite confident we knew our rights and would soon be on our way.
It was explained in short order that basically the only 'rights' we had were those they decided to give us and were bundled off to Brecon Barracks to be eventually interviewed by the Range Commander.
What a b*ll*cking!!!! Eventually let us go in the early hours of Sunday morning but kept the cars saying we would have to return the following Tuesday at, iirc 3.00pm. Awkward as it would mean a day off work, a 80 mile round trip, sorting lifts etc.
No alternative but to comply if we wanted our cars back. Tuesday arrives and we duly present ourselves only to be told he hadn't made a decision whether to return our cars or not yet and come back tomorrow at the same time. No, a phonecall would be no good, we had to be there in person.
Wednesday, after another king sized b*ll*cking we were told that we could have the cars back - but on Friday!!!!
Looking back, you can see he was using the 'embuggerance' factor to make sure we didn't do it again without taking down official channels which no doubt would have been worse for us.
Sure as hell taught us a lesson though.
BB
fizz876 said:
I was driving on the M40 the other day and off in the distance I saw a blue police car with all the livery with blue lights like any other normal police car. As I get closer, on the side of the vehicle it read Military Police. What power do they have over the civillian population. Would he be allowed to pull me over for speeding?
Guess you know the answer now. Problem is, by the time you can see the writing clear enough you've already slowed down anyway
Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff