Mandatory 20 limit outside every Glasgow school
Discussion
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3278577.stm
A mandatory 20mph speed limit is to be introduced outside each of Glasgow's 258 schools in the biggest project of its kind in Scotland.
The £4m scheme will be brought in over the next three years.
Glasgow currently has the worst record in Scotland for injuries to children on the city's streets, with 271 being hurt travelling to or from school in the past three years.
A recent survey showed that many youngsters were frightened of traffic, with half describing the roads outside their schools as dangerous.
The Scottish Executive has given £27m to local authorities to promote road safety around schools.
Glasgow City Council decided that the most effective solution would be to introduce compulsory, part-time 20 mile an hour speed limits around all its schools after the success of pilot projects in the city.
The first will be brought into force in areas where the largest numbers of children have been injured.
However, they are unlikely to be in force until next spring.
A mandatory 20mph speed limit is to be introduced outside each of Glasgow's 258 schools in the biggest project of its kind in Scotland.
The £4m scheme will be brought in over the next three years.
Glasgow currently has the worst record in Scotland for injuries to children on the city's streets, with 271 being hurt travelling to or from school in the past three years.
A recent survey showed that many youngsters were frightened of traffic, with half describing the roads outside their schools as dangerous.
The Scottish Executive has given £27m to local authorities to promote road safety around schools.
Glasgow City Council decided that the most effective solution would be to introduce compulsory, part-time 20 mile an hour speed limits around all its schools after the success of pilot projects in the city.
The first will be brought into force in areas where the largest numbers of children have been injured.
However, they are unlikely to be in force until next spring.
There is nothing obvious in the report to suggest whether all or only primary schools are included. If it is all schools that is a d4mmed sad reflection on education in Glasgow that they turn out pupils who, even at secondary (and tertiary?) education establishments, are not aware of the dangers presented by road traffic.
Will these be permanent speed limits, or will they only apply during school hours?
I'm a supporter of lowered speed limits outside schools, but in the American style ... where indicated by flashing lights at drop-off and pick-up times. I also support their 'non-ovetaking' rule for school buses when dropping off and picking up. Such limits and restrictions are seen to have a point. They apply only when there is particular danger. Drivers recognise this and respond accordingly.
Our government(s), central and local, are obsessed with controlling citizens and wish to treat everyone as though they had the intelligence that our elected representatives and their officials commonly demonstrate ... NONE!
Streaky
Will these be permanent speed limits, or will they only apply during school hours?
I'm a supporter of lowered speed limits outside schools, but in the American style ... where indicated by flashing lights at drop-off and pick-up times. I also support their 'non-ovetaking' rule for school buses when dropping off and picking up. Such limits and restrictions are seen to have a point. They apply only when there is particular danger. Drivers recognise this and respond accordingly.
Our government(s), central and local, are obsessed with controlling citizens and wish to treat everyone as though they had the intelligence that our elected representatives and their officials commonly demonstrate ... NONE!
Streaky
simpo two said:Me? I'm investing in red flags ... bound to be a call for them soon
I believe that the whole of Ipswich town centre is to reveive a blanket 20 limit soon. The last time that was the case, it was 1931.
Congrats Ipswich, back 72 years at a single stroke. They have already closed the airport.
Horse & cart anyone?
- Streaky
puggit said:
Glasgow currently has the worst record in Scotland for injuries to children on the city's streets, with 271 being hurt travelling to or from school in the past three years.
May I respectfully suggest to the Powers that Be north of the border that they spend less money on enforcing speed limits and more money on educating kids to the fact that ROADS are for CARS, PAVEMENTS are for PEOPLE, if you want to play football do so on a PLAYING FIELD not the fecking street; and that on the occasions when they need to cross the road, to do so using the Green Cross Code.
rant over
d hard to beat the 20mph limit through town cos of the jams of empty busses! I know cos I use it as a short cut to get from IDR to Reading bridge missing the dreaded Vastern Road!
The problem with schools, not only the Parents in their trucks pickignup the fat shites who can't walk more than 10 paces without stopping for a dairy milk, but when they get older, they decide that they have the right to cross the road whenever and whereever they choose traffic doing 20-30mph MUST STOP!
Unfortunatly is doesn't happen, the cars can't stop cos the little (i say little but I'm talking Secondary here) c*nts just step out in front of you WITHOUT looking and flick the bird when you beep the horn to politely warn them that they are in F*cking Danger.
Having just done a 5 day Truck Driving Course in Glasgow, I experienced this phenomenan known as Suicide every day I was up there. The most recent being on thursday, when sat at a GREEN traffic light in a Q turning right, kids got off a bus stopped coming from the right, and proceeded across the road I was on without looking In front of numerous Cars and Buses, all of which beeped. Then into the Waiting Q, holding us up, and 2 walking in front of a Driver training on a Fecking Artic.
These shites have no idea how hard it is to stop a vehicle doing 20+mph dead. And by slowing down cars they aren't going to help the problem much. Yet again this Anti-Car government has come up with a Solution to Symptoms rather than the Problem.
Unfortunatly is doesn't happen, the cars can't stop cos the little (i say little but I'm talking Secondary here) c*nts just step out in front of you WITHOUT looking and flick the bird when you beep the horn to politely warn them that they are in F*cking Danger.
Having just done a 5 day Truck Driving Course in Glasgow, I experienced this phenomenan known as Suicide every day I was up there. The most recent being on thursday, when sat at a GREEN traffic light in a Q turning right, kids got off a bus stopped coming from the right, and proceeded across the road I was on without looking In front of numerous Cars and Buses, all of which beeped. Then into the Waiting Q, holding us up, and 2 walking in front of a Driver training on a Fecking Artic.
These shites have no idea how hard it is to stop a vehicle doing 20+mph dead. And by slowing down cars they aren't going to help the problem much. Yet again this Anti-Car government has come up with a Solution to Symptoms rather than the Problem.
We live in a cul de sac with no through traffic. I still won't let my 6 year old play on the road because I want her to realise that any road, even ours, could be dangerous when you're not concentrating -- and you can't expect a young child to concentrate on traffic when playing.
It's not whether any particular road is more dangerous than another, it's that all roads have traffic and should be treated as dangerous. Otherwise you have to explain that some roads are safe while others aren't, which is very difficult and illogical. But this is the very issue that play streets and selective 20mph limits actually introduce.
However, I don't have a solution for those lacking green space and areas set aside for playing.
It's not whether any particular road is more dangerous than another, it's that all roads have traffic and should be treated as dangerous. Otherwise you have to explain that some roads are safe while others aren't, which is very difficult and illogical. But this is the very issue that play streets and selective 20mph limits actually introduce.
However, I don't have a solution for those lacking green space and areas set aside for playing.
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