Need to know the law (not car related)
Need to know the law (not car related)
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davidd

Original Poster:

6,645 posts

304 months

Friday 21st November 2003
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Can some one please tell me if it is illegal to block someone’s right of way and if my back gate is regarded as a right of way?

Our house backs onto a small blissfully quiet lane (no through road) which is smashing unless the infants’ school across the back is taking in or chucking out the kids. I can live with the huge numbers of people carriers with 2 people in them) and 4x4s that congest the place but I'm getting very hacked off with not being able to open my back gate (it swings outwards) because some tosser has parked across it.

We have put a very large red sign on it (no parking) which helped a little until someone ripped it off yesterday (after we politely asked if she could move her espace).

I've had enough, we do have a front door but that is three steep steps on to a very narrow pavement and a very busy main road, not handy with a baby in a buggy. So I want to take some action.

I have considered a number of things but most will involve me and criminal damage and I know that I'll end up in the wrong.

What I would like to do is every time we see someone doing it, politely tell them that they are causing an offence and then call the local police and report it, I don't expect an instant reaction from the police but we do have a new village bobby and I get the impression he is keen so hopefully with a bit of badgering he might show up one day and book someone...

However before I do anything I need to know what the law states as I may be wasting my time and the anonymous wheel clamping idea might the way forward..

Thanks

David

madant69

847 posts

267 months

Friday 21st November 2003
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Nightmare scenario David...some people are just ignorant. My parents have the same problem where they live so I see it from both sides...

Firstly obstruction, if they block your gate, it's an obstruction (it's not always but yours sounds fine). Call the police, say you need to be somewhere urgently and take the message (CAD) number.

When you have a few CAD numbers collected, write to the school (who will send out a letter to parents) and your local bobby. Keep doing this! You will probably be upgraded to the staus of "beat complaint" at some point which means they will send a really mean, hairy arsed copper (like me ) to keep an eye on the situation and deal as necessary, maybe for a week (commitments permitting)

People who abuse you commit an offence. People who rip signs from your gate commit an offence. Take their reg number. Phone up. Get a CAD number. Once the message is recorded we will at least speak to them (if you don't want to press charges)

I KNOW it sounds petty but keeping the Queens peace is what we're paid for and I get sent to jobs like this almost daily! It's part of what we get paid for...you pay the tax that pays our wages (as I'm often reminded ) so you might as well get something back!

Hope it helps, good luck!

rviant

1,281 posts

273 months

Friday 21st November 2003
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Well said MAdant

gh0st

4,693 posts

278 months

Friday 21st November 2003
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madant69 said:
you pay the tax that pays our wages


Oh cool! Can you come and clean my motorbike then?

davidd

Original Poster:

6,645 posts

304 months

Friday 21st November 2003
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Thanks very much for that. I have already spoken to the school and they are very supportive.

Cheers

David

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

283 months

Friday 21st November 2003
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My best mate has the same problem, also with a school - people keep parking in his parking spaces!

Hes taken to shouting abuse at them when they won't move and threatening to block them in with his works van.

He'll do it too, crazy bastard

gh0st

4,693 posts

278 months

Friday 21st November 2003
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Mad Dave said:
My best mate has the same problem, also with a school - people keep parking in his parking spaces!

Hes taken to shouting abuse at them when they won't move and threatening to block them in with his works van.

He'll do it too, crazy bastard


Great stuff ! Direct action is the only thing that works with some of these people!

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

283 months

Friday 21st November 2003
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He asked one guy to move once, the guy replied 'ill only be a minute' so my mate just said 'get the off my drive, or ill park my van across your car and you'll have to get the Police to tow it out of the way - youve been warned!"

(the guy moved)

outlaw

1,893 posts

286 months

Friday 21st November 2003
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I course I would never do anything Ilegal

But cars that block me in. Do have a strange habit of disapearing perminently.

superlightr

12,920 posts

283 months

Friday 21st November 2003
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Had a car parked in my office parking space for over 2 hrs, left lots of stikcy notes on it, kept checking about every 30 mins to see if it was there, in the end I just blocked it in (all on private land).

About an hour later this woman (lentle looking) came to our offices in a huf and whinged about being blocked in etc.. blah blah and you obvoulsly dont have children blah blah and my children are waiting for me to pick them up and they wont know where I am and Im now late because of you!

the cheeck of it ! :haha:

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

283 months

Friday 21st November 2003
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LOL! I hope you told her to off and made her wait for the amount of time her car had occupied your space?!


Outlaw - LOL!

nonegreen

7,803 posts

290 months

Friday 21st November 2003
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I occasionally have a similar problem. The first time this happened I called the police and they came and put a fixed penalty on the windscreen. This lentlist, caftan wearing pile of hormonal imbalance appeared and got all stroppy and abusive with the copper and told hime he was a arsehole and she was not happy she had been done and was therefore going to leave her car there all night (so I couldn't get in my garage to put my car away). He smiled and said fine. When she had gone, the tow truck appeared and it cost her £130 to get it out of the pound. She hasn't spoke to me since.

thub

1,359 posts

304 months

Friday 21st November 2003
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Nonegreen - that sounds like a proper result.

madant69

847 posts

267 months

Friday 21st November 2003
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nonegreen said:
When she had gone, the tow truck appeared and it cost her £130 to get it out of the pound. She hasn't spoke to me since.


Now THAT's practical policing

bga

8,134 posts

271 months

Friday 21st November 2003
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outlaw said:
I course I would never do anything Ilegal

But cars that block me in. Do have a strange habit of disapearing perminently.


What about the owners ??? :smileyfordiggingunmarkedgrave:


>> Edited by bga on Friday 21st November 14:23

davidd

Original Poster:

6,645 posts

304 months

Friday 21st November 2003
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One of the things I was considering was jacking the car up as high as I could (ie well out of the reach of a normal car toolkit jack) then leaving it on axle stands. No damage done to the car....

D.