Sunday Times," Driving " Golden speed cameras
Sunday Times," Driving " Golden speed cameras
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smokin220

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105 posts

266 months

Sunday 23rd November 2003
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Reading scamera van earns £25k a week

M6 scamera earns £50k per week

All about £££££££ deaths up by 91 etc

Cost of running a scamera £100k per annum

Road "saftey" minister, Jamieson says " happy to remove them if we can put something back in there place"

How about coppers, Jamieson, the real one's not the change you get when you buy a burger

tonyrec

3,984 posts

275 months

Sunday 23rd November 2003
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How else are the Government going to raise revenue if they ditch all Speed Scameras?

Pies

13,116 posts

276 months

Sunday 23rd November 2003
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So a scamera cost 100k to run, how much for 1 BiB

jeffreyarcher

675 posts

268 months

Sunday 23rd November 2003
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smokin220 said:
Road "saftey" minister, Jamieson says " happy to remove them if we can put something back in there place"


You're selectively quoting, see: www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2105-902800,00.html .
He wants 'something else' to slow drivers down, not to save lives or injuries. It's the old 'constructed obstruction' again.

Pies said:
how much for 1 BiB

£33,284 (including overtime and location allowance).

>> Edited by jeffreyarcher on Sunday 23 November 16:07

tonyrec

3,984 posts

275 months

Sunday 23rd November 2003
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jeffreyarcher said:




Pies said:
how much for 1 BiB


£33,284 (including overtime and location allowance).



You have to pay for experience and i wouldnt get out of bed for that

streaky

19,311 posts

269 months

Sunday 23rd November 2003
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jeffreyarcher said:

Pies said:
how much for 1 BiB


£33,284 (including overtime and location allowance).
That's salary, the 'running cost' is higher, usually a factor of 1.7 to 2.5 should be applied, making the running cost of a BiB around 80k pa - some some change, but not a lot ... you'd get 5 BiBs for 4 scameras - Streaky

smokin220

Original Poster:

105 posts

266 months

Sunday 23rd November 2003
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jeffreyarcher said:

smokin220 said:
Road "saftey" minister, Jamieson says " happy to remove them if we can put something back in there place"



You're selectively quoting, see: <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2105-902800,00.html">www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2105-902800,00.html</a> .
He wants 'something else' to slow drivers down, not to save lives or injuries. It's the old 'constructed obstruction' again.




220

Only doing what those bastards do

Good link, cheers

james_j

3,996 posts

275 months

Monday 24th November 2003
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These organisations that are ripping all this money off all the statistically better drivers are a bit like the private clamping firms. An easy way to make money and they're going crazy - enjoying all the extra pay and overtime etc from the income.

The main points in the Sunday Times article that I found interesting were, in addition to the money that is being made from these tax machines were:

(a) The chief Constable of Durham thinks speed cameras are ridiculous and that exceeding the speed limit related to just 60 collisions per year in the Durham area - that's about 3%. He said that driver error caused by lapses in concentration were the main causes. (surprise surprise)

(b) He added that Durham's accident rate was about a third lower than the national average without speed cameras.

(c) Edmund King of the RAC said that the archetypal speeder is not a boy racer; he or she usually has an accident-free record and a full no claims bonus. (So, camera supporters, how are speed cameras contributing to safety?)

(d) Secrecy, a councillor, on behalf of North Somerset council has been trying without success to obtain financial accounts from his local "safety"(!) camera partnership without success. He said, "They won't tell you anything, even though the money they are spending belongs to the taxpayer". (What, all that money coming in and no accountability? That doesn't really sound like a recipe for, let's just say "misuse of funds" does it?

daver

1,209 posts

304 months

Monday 24th November 2003
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Does anyone know where in Reading this scamera van that catches a homicidal maniac every 95 seconds is?

It must be a hell of an accident blackspot. I've looked out of the window in Ascot expecting to see a huge pall of smoke in the sky emanating from the scene of the permanent multi vehicle pile-up that must mark its location. The wind must be in the wrong direction today though.

puggit

49,330 posts

268 months

Monday 24th November 2003
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It's Vastern Road, the dual carriageway behind the station.

I use the road at least twice a day (normally 4x) and I have never even come close to seeing an accident - except for one dopey cow who was stationary joining a roundabout and then moved on to the rdbt when it wasn't empty.

It should be a 40, but is a 30 limit - so it's easy to catch people, that's why the camera is there.