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I have a question, i don't mean to crash on the parade. But they said between 1996 and 2001 the number of accidents had remained constant. But between 1996 and 2001 the number of cars on the road has increased greatly, has it not?
So this means the ratio of accidents to cars has fallen. So something has to account for this fall in accidents. Not saying it's speed cameras, but there is something to account for this fall.
So this means the ratio of accidents to cars has fallen. So something has to account for this fall in accidents. Not saying it's speed cameras, but there is something to account for this fall.
g4ry13 said:
So this means the ratio of accidents to cars has fallen.
Incorrect; the figure usually used is of fatalities/billion vehicle Kms. It is this figure which historically feel at about 6%/annum. The fall has now ceased, and in some areas is actually rising slightly.
g4ry13 said:
So something has to account for this fall in accidents. Not saying it's speed cameras, but there is something to account for this fall.
1) It's not a fall; that is the point, and
2) It is speed cameras (and the policy behind them). That is demonstrated by the fact that countries who do not have a draconian 'speed kills' enforcement policy are still seeing the ~6% year on year improvement.
gemini said:
No reductions in road deaths
It's worse than that; not only is there no improvement, it is making things worse. The 6% year on year improvement has stopped.
>> Edited by jeffreyarcher on Sunday 23 November 22:03
puggit said:
The piece did end rather limply though - "what shall we do about this?".
Well Top Gear - if you'd bothered reading Graham Bell's correspondance....
Graham - can I suggest you start bombarding Top Gear?
Hi puggit,
Already e-mailed them a week ago and had nothing back but standard auto responder message. In view of last night's prog I'll be e-mailing them again.
Might have more impact if we ALL started bombarding Top Gear.
SpudGunner said:
On the map they held up most of the accident blackspots were all up north.
Does this say something about northeners driving skills?
Nah, it's all you Southerners that venture too far up the country. First time you get to drive a road with no one to hold you up and you spin off and crash
BTW, I thought the majority of the roads were in the midlands.
I can smell revolution. There was also a good piece in the Sunday Times yesterday...
www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2105-902800,00.html
If things are going to change, it press coverage like this and from Top Gear that is needed. Now it just needsto be on the front page.
The story in the times is quite scary these "Saftey Camera Partnerships" seem accountable to no one..
www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2105-902800,00.html
If things are going to change, it press coverage like this and from Top Gear that is needed. Now it just needsto be on the front page.
The story in the times is quite scary these "Saftey Camera Partnerships" seem accountable to no one..
TOP GEAR !!! YHMIntersting that Jeremy Clarkson specifically quoted TRL and then said they came up with the 7% figure.
For TRL's view on what the real figures are, look at page 3 of;
www.trl.co.uk/pdf/TRLNews_sep02.pdf
For TRL's view on what the real figures are, look at page 3 of;
www.trl.co.uk/pdf/TRLNews_sep02.pdf
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