Mobile phones - 4 days and counting...
Discussion
We've just got our fixed penalty codes through for these offences...
Which I knew about...
Which I didn't...
Seems a bit harsh
General Orders said:
Driver Using a Hand-Held Mobile Telephone - Non-Endorseable Fixed Penalty
Which I knew about...
General Orders said:
Supervising a PDLH whilst Using a Hand-Held Mobile Telephone - Non-Endorseable Fixed Penalty
Which I didn't...
Seems a bit harsh
If it wasn't such a badly thought out fiasco of a law it would have been a really, really good idea...
Still. Given you can't enforce it with cameras then it'll be used by Trafpol with discretion to teach the idiots a lesson.
Its a shame numpties can't be done for not bothering to look where they're going because they're having a conversation with their passenger...
Still. Given you can't enforce it with cameras then it'll be used by Trafpol with discretion to teach the idiots a lesson.
Its a shame numpties can't be done for not bothering to look where they're going because they're having a conversation with their passenger...
That does seem a little harsh, but you can see the reasoning behind it.
All this red tape, paperwork and whatnot that has been introduced to make our roads a safer place has got to be costing rather a lot more than it would have to send every driver on compulsary remedial training...?
All this red tape, paperwork and whatnot that has been introduced to make our roads a safer place has got to be costing rather a lot more than it would have to send every driver on compulsary remedial training...?
r32 said:
The million pound motorways signs on the M60 were telling me about this today. The failed however to tell me about the 5 miles of queuing traffic ahead... grr.
I'm waiting for the day that I see "Vote Labour" on one of these signs - I've seen every other sort of propoganda on them so far....
porsche944 said:
The million pound motorways signs on the M60 were telling me about this today. The failed however to tell me about the 5 miles of queuing traffic ahead... grr.
I'm waiting for the day that I see "Vote Labour" on one of these signs - I've seen every other sort of propoganda on them so far....
***MOVE LEFT YOU NUMPTY*** Would be nice!!
How interesting, the following has just been distributed in our bank on behalf of City of London Police.
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For the information of all motor vehicle users.
On Monday 1st December 2003 a new regulation is introduced creating a specific offence of driving a motor vehicle on a road while using a hand-held mobile telephone or similar hand-held device.
This legislation has an impact both for all drivers of vehicles using mobile phones whilst driving and also any person or business who causes or permits the use of mobile phones in such circumstances.
A mobile telephone or other device is to be treated as hand-held if it is, or must be, held at some point during the course of making or receiving a call or performing any other interactive communication function, this will include holding a phone between the ear and shoulder.
A device, is ‘similar’ to a mobile phone if it performs an interactive communication function by transmitting and receiving data. ‘Interactive communication function’ includes:
Sending or receiving oral or written messages, facsimile documents, still or moving images; and providing access to the internet;
Hands-Free equipment Provided that a phone can be operated without holding it, then hands-free equipment is not prohibited. However, hands free devices can be distracting (paragraphs 126 – 128 Highway Code refers) and where their use affects a driver’s ability to control the vehicle, this may amount to careless driving (Section 3 Road Traffic Act 1988) or not being in proper control of a vehicle (Regulation 104 Road Vehicles (Construction & Use) Regulations 1986.
Provisional licence holders, No person shall supervise a holder of a provisional licence if the person supervising is using – hand-held mobile telephone; or a similar hand-held device at a time when the provisional licence holder is driving a motor vehicle on a road.
General Exemption A person does not contravene this regulation if, at the time of the alleged contravention -
A) He/she is using the telephone or other device to call the police, fire, ambulance or other emergency service on 112 or 999;
B) He/she is acting in response to a genuine emergency; and it is unsafe or impracticable for him to cease driving in order to make the call (or where a driver is being supervised, for the provisional licence holder to cease driving while the call was being made).
The definition of ‘driving’
The term ‘driving’ includes stationary in traffic, this will include where a vehicle is stopped at traffic lights or during other hold ups that may occur during a typical journey where a vehicle can be expected to move off after a short while.
Offences
The offence is subject to a £30 non-endorsable fixed penalty notice or maximum fine of £1000 for conviction in court (maximum of £2,500 for drivers of goods vehicles or buses/coaches).
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For the information of all motor vehicle users.
On Monday 1st December 2003 a new regulation is introduced creating a specific offence of driving a motor vehicle on a road while using a hand-held mobile telephone or similar hand-held device.
This legislation has an impact both for all drivers of vehicles using mobile phones whilst driving and also any person or business who causes or permits the use of mobile phones in such circumstances.
A mobile telephone or other device is to be treated as hand-held if it is, or must be, held at some point during the course of making or receiving a call or performing any other interactive communication function, this will include holding a phone between the ear and shoulder.
A device, is ‘similar’ to a mobile phone if it performs an interactive communication function by transmitting and receiving data. ‘Interactive communication function’ includes:
Sending or receiving oral or written messages, facsimile documents, still or moving images; and providing access to the internet;
Hands-Free equipment Provided that a phone can be operated without holding it, then hands-free equipment is not prohibited. However, hands free devices can be distracting (paragraphs 126 – 128 Highway Code refers) and where their use affects a driver’s ability to control the vehicle, this may amount to careless driving (Section 3 Road Traffic Act 1988) or not being in proper control of a vehicle (Regulation 104 Road Vehicles (Construction & Use) Regulations 1986.
Provisional licence holders, No person shall supervise a holder of a provisional licence if the person supervising is using – hand-held mobile telephone; or a similar hand-held device at a time when the provisional licence holder is driving a motor vehicle on a road.
General Exemption A person does not contravene this regulation if, at the time of the alleged contravention -
A) He/she is using the telephone or other device to call the police, fire, ambulance or other emergency service on 112 or 999;
B) He/she is acting in response to a genuine emergency; and it is unsafe or impracticable for him to cease driving in order to make the call (or where a driver is being supervised, for the provisional licence holder to cease driving while the call was being made).
The definition of ‘driving’
The term ‘driving’ includes stationary in traffic, this will include where a vehicle is stopped at traffic lights or during other hold ups that may occur during a typical journey where a vehicle can be expected to move off after a short while.
Offences
The offence is subject to a £30 non-endorsable fixed penalty notice or maximum fine of £1000 for conviction in court (maximum of £2,500 for drivers of goods vehicles or buses/coaches).
Fat Audi 80 said:I presume that's a politically correct version of "Vote Labour". On second thoughts, what's left-wing about N3w L4b0ur? - Streaky
I'm waiting for the day that I see "Vote Labour" on one of these signs - I've seen every other sort of propoganda on them so far....
Would be nice!!
>> Edited by streaky on Thursday 27th November 17:44
safetyfirst said:
keep hearing about the new mobile phone law, but thinking about it, I would not unduly worry too much about being caught as who is going to catch you then?
when was the last time you actually saw a Police patrol vehicle on the roads anyway?
Totally agree with you on this.
Also I believe there are possibly a lot of hippocrates on this forum, as every day I drive on the Motorway, the number of drivers I spot using a handheld mobile must be at least 1 in 5 drivers.
I don't believe this new law will change anything. Drivers will continue to use mobiles when they know they can get away with it, just like speeding.
When is Blunkett going to fine drivers caught smoking, map reading, changing CD/Tapes, eating chocolate bars, applying makeup, etc etc.
There are far worse things people do while driving than using mobile phones.
safetyfirst said:
keep hearing about the new mobile phone law, but thinking about it, I would not unduly worry too much about being caught as who is going to catch you then?
when was the last time you actually saw a Police patrol vehicle on the roads anyway?
Do you live on the Isle Of Bute by chance?
hawthorns said:
I'm on nights Sunday too. I'd normally shy away from traffic stuff but the pot's at £235...
I'll come to your Police station, sit outside and give you a call, you nick me, we'll deduct the £30 fine and split the pot.
Hawthorns, I like the cut of your jib
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