The Richard Brunstrom memo...
The Richard Brunstrom memo...
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gh0st

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4,693 posts

278 months

Thursday 27th November 2003
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Just read it and if you look at the signature at the bottom...

Yours sincerely

Richard Brunstrom

Head of Road Policing Business Area
Chief Constables


count duckula

1,324 posts

294 months

Thursday 27th November 2003
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Most businesses focus on the customer, he takes the Michael Barrymore approach to "customer service"

At least he has a good " money head "

Malc

toad_oftoadhall

936 posts

271 months

Thursday 27th November 2003
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The man's a crook.

jeffreyarcher

675 posts

268 months

Thursday 27th November 2003
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If nothing else, this should prove to the doubters that speed cameras do kill. After all, if the figures did show that cameras saved lives, why doesn't he want people to give them to Paul Smith?
The only possible reason for not giving them to him, is that they prove something very embarrassing to Brunstrom and the government. And why mark it "restricted"?
Case proved, m'lud.

deltaf

6,806 posts

273 months

Thursday 27th November 2003
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Sent it to The Sun.....

puggit

49,336 posts

268 months

Thursday 27th November 2003
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deltaf said:
Sent it to The Sun.....

Swilly

9,699 posts

294 months

Thursday 27th November 2003
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Hold on.

Read what?

I can only see from "yours sincerely etc etc" onwards.

Is there a letter in there that has gone missing??

deltaf

6,806 posts

273 months

Thursday 27th November 2003
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Dear Colleague

Paul Smith – safespeed.org.uk

Dear Sir/Madam

I am writing to you in my capacity as Chair of the ACPO Road Policing Business Area. I wish to bring to your attention the actions of a Mr Paul Smith and the website safespeed.org.uk.

The Department for Transport has been inundated with various requests from Mr Smith concerning speed limits, speed enforcement and Government policy on speed management - Mr Smith’s sole intent seems to be to discredit Government policy and the sources of advice on which it is based. He has progressively increased over the last two years the number of professional and public bodies he corresponds with. He starts with pointed questions about statistical and other factors, and when he receives a response he publishes the correspondence criticising and mocking its content aggressively. He is persistent in his follow up correspondence, demanding replies and usually raises further issues seeking to escalate the debate on his terms. He will use any replies received to populate the website www.safespeed.org.uk which now has many pages featuring his correspondence with numerous respected organisations and individuals and their replies. From this correspondence an address in Scotland is given for Mr Smith.

The Department for Transport in its most recent e-mail correspondence with Mr Smith in September stated that whilst they encourage dialogue on the topic of speed, speed enforcement and road safety, they felt it would be unproductive to continue corresponding with Mr Smith given the lack of publicly available research to support his claims and assertions about vehicle speeds and collisions. DfT have advised Mr Smith that unless he is able to provide such material as evidence they will not enter into any further correspondence with him on these topics.

The ‘safespeed’ web site raises a number of areas of concern.

1. The website is opposed to all Government policy in respect of speed enforcement.

2. It provides standard proforma letters to encourage visitors and supporters to lobby government and public agencies over speed enforcement policy.

3. It offers advice on how to avoid penalty points (including asking a friend or relative to take the points claiming the driver is deceased) and the cloning of number plates.

4. Encourages those working in the police, government and partnerships to provide information to the site in confidence and anonymously.

5. There is a recurring catch phrase "let's make speed cameras as unacceptable as drink driving".

It is clearly evident that Mr Smith continues to canvas the Service and Safety Camera Partnerships in order to populate his website and to discredit the Government's speed enforcement policy. Mr Smith does not frequent respected road safety or transport circles or participate in open debate in the mainstream, but appears to operate on the "fringe".

As stated earlier the DfT, along with many of the other organisations that have encountered Mr Smith, have taken the decision that they will no longer correspond with him or parties acting on behalf of safespeed.org.uk. I fully endorse this stance and would ask for your support in this matter.

The purpose of this letter is to make you aware of this stance and to give consideration to supporting both my view and that of Government in dealing with this matter.

Yours sincerely

Richard Brunstrom

Head of Road Policing Business Area
Chief Constables

mondeoman

11,430 posts

286 months

Thursday 27th November 2003
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head in the sand and hope it goes away - what a TWAT!

Swilly

9,699 posts

294 months

Thursday 27th November 2003
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Thanks Deltaf.

Isnt Brunstrom undermining the democratic process and rights of Mr Smith?

Where did this memo come from?

and importantly,

Where else is it going to go? Complaints to MP's etc etc

>> Edited by Swilly on Thursday 27th November 12:57

chief-0369

1,195 posts

272 months

Thursday 27th November 2003
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that twat brunstrom said:

3. It offers advice on how to avoid penalty points (including asking a friend or relative to take the points claiming the driver is deceased) and the cloning of number plates.


Does it. I cant see it

Cooperman

4,428 posts

270 months

Thursday 27th November 2003
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That's a good idea for avoiding points and fines. Thank you Mr. Brunstrom.

Mr E

22,642 posts

279 months

Thursday 27th November 2003
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I hearby nominate Mr P. Smith for at least an OBE.....

pmanson

13,388 posts

273 months

Thursday 27th November 2003
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Mr E said:
I hearby nominate Mr P. Smith for at least an OBE.....


Seconded...

Motion carried

deltaf

6,806 posts

273 months

Thursday 27th November 2003
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Arise Sir Paul....

AlexH

2,505 posts

304 months

Thursday 27th November 2003
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Swilly said:

Isnt Brunstrom undermining the democratic process and rights of Mr Smith?

Where did this memo come from?


I would agree completely. Mr. Brunstrom would seem to be overstepping the mark and treading a very dangerous line if this letter/email is genuine. You can tell this is the language of a copper who has found someone doing something completely legal and would like to nick him for something but is frustrated as hell that he can't. Tr.

puggit

49,336 posts

268 months

Thursday 27th November 2003
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I think I might email mr brunstrom and ask him what he thought he was doing

Apache

39,731 posts

304 months

Thursday 27th November 2003
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Anyone up for chipping in for a good Brief? I'd love the chance to pull this arrogant c**t down a peg or five

safespeed

2,983 posts

294 months

Friday 28th November 2003
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deltaf said:
Arise Sir Paul....

<bows>

You really are too kind guys.

*thanks a million*

I won't be suing Mr Brunstrom because of a legal obstacle called "qualified privilege". Don't ask. I did and my head hurts.

But I will be making one hell of a fuss. I've already written a complaint to Tony Blair, been on radio 4, North Wales Daily Post on Friday (i.e. today). Sunday Telegraph on Sunday. Welsh TV on Thursday next week (filming Monday). And it's not going to stop there. Damian Green (Shadow Secretary of State for Transport) is giving some support.

I'm considering writing to all chief constables asking them if they would refuse to provide road safety information on the basis of Mr Brunstrom's memo. Would that be fun? Or would that be fun?

If any of you want to complain, Malcolm King of the the North Wales Police Authority is effectively Mr Brunstrom's boss.

www.safsepeed.org.uk/nwpa.html

Or complain to your local chief constable and ask if he will be observing Brunstrom's request. Or complain to your MP about Mr Brunstrom's attempt to restrict access to road safety information. Or complain to David Blunkett - Home Secretary - he's responsible for all Police forces.

And by the way the memo is here:

www.safespeed.org.uk/brunstrom4.html

And the Radio 4 bit is here:

www.safespeed.org.uk/pm002.mp3

Best Regards,
Paul Smith
Safe Speed
www.safespeed.org.uk

puggit

49,336 posts

268 months

Friday 28th November 2003
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Paul,

Keep up the good work! We know how incredibly busy you are with all this and I'm sure some of us will chip in some time to help you!

Keep up the good fight