started to change my views on plod
started to change my views on plod
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jesta1865

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3,453 posts

230 months

Thursday 14th May 2009
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i suspect this may get moved, but its not really a legal question as such.

For many years, I was a staunch supporter of the police in this country, then over the last 10 years I have seen my personal opinion turn 180 degrees, and I have been vocally critical of the way this country has been policed. I phrase it that way particularly as I have been aware that its policies and the odd bad apple that has coloured my views.

Well last night I needed the intervention of the police, and I have to say to the guys on the ground that they could not have been more supportive and helpful. The guy involved was arrested, banged up for several hours, and cautioned. Whilst I am upset about that, I have to be pragmatic and accept it. Plus talking to the officers involved, ruining the guys life for one moments madness seemed a bit over the top.

I spent over an hour giving a statement, the PC taking it, was diligent, careful, understanding, and made sure i was 100% happy.

I may still not agree with the policies that are pursued by the forces in this country (too politicised for me) but I now have much greater respect for the guys and ladies doing this job on the ground. Having been in the station last night and seeing some of the grief the civilian had to deal with on the front desk etc and then thinking about the fact that your average copper has to deal with that all day every day, I have a much healthier opinion of them.

Mind you I was devastated to see that the copper who took my statement looked about 14, and had to laugh when he said I was 'free to go' at the end smile

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

282 months

Thursday 14th May 2009
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That's lovely.

It would make a lot more sense if you added some detail.

Ahhh Moneypenny

4,100 posts

243 months

Thursday 14th May 2009
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Tyre Smoke said:
That's lovely.

It would make a lot more sense if you added some detail.
Indeed, had to re-read the oeiginal post as didn't make sense, clarity would be better, what situation were you in?

jesta1865

Original Poster:

3,453 posts

230 months

Thursday 14th May 2009
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Ahhh Moneypenny said:
Tyre Smoke said:
That's lovely.

It would make a lot more sense if you added some detail.
Indeed, had to re-read the oeiginal post as didn't make sense, clarity would be better, what situation were you in?
that's my dilemma i didn't want to into detail, suffice to say I was the victim of an assault last night on the way home from work.

Murray993

1,515 posts

254 months

Thursday 14th May 2009
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Why did you asault this poor chap

Jasandjules

71,773 posts

250 months

Thursday 14th May 2009
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I am glad to hear they actually caught the scumbag.

I am sorry to hear he got away with such a pathetic punishment.

El Guapo

2,787 posts

211 months

Thursday 14th May 2009
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Who would want to be a copper these days? It must be frustrating to apprehend scrotes only to find them wrist-slapped by the courts and back out thieving or assaulting people the next day.
I´m old enough to remember beat coppers. Every neighbourhood had them and they weren´t averse to issuing the occasional clip round the ear if they thought it necessary.

Cheeky Jim

1,276 posts

301 months

Thursday 14th May 2009
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El Guapo said:
Who would want to be a copper these days? It must be frustrating to apprehend scrotes only to find them wrist-slapped by the courts and back out thieving or assaulting people the next day.
I´m old enough to remember beat coppers. Every neighbourhood had them and they weren´t averse to issuing the occasional clip round the ear if they thought it necessary.
Ah, but that would mean the government actually invested in the police force rather than :

1) Relying on more and more technology to replace people (CCTV everywhere)

and

2) Profiting from their 2nd homes is far more important.

Lil' Joe

1,548 posts

207 months

Thursday 14th May 2009
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A little more detail maybe? Just a bit? The suspense is killing me, I need to know more biggrin

NDA

24,339 posts

246 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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I assume you're pressing charges? I'd make the scrote's life a legal misery.

As to the Boys in Blue, I have a lot of respect, particularly when you see the low life they have to deal with.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

276 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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Jasandjules said:
I am glad to hear they actually caught the scumbag.

I am sorry to hear he got away with such a pathetic punishment.
Quite...

That won't happen to the victims here, of course...

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... going to happen here then???

jesta1865

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3,453 posts

230 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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Lil' Joe said:
A little more detail maybe? Just a bit? The suspense is killing me, I need to know more biggrin
ok, i was involved in a car accident, nothing major, bit of paint swapped, wiped off with a finger now, not even a scratch.

but whislt argueing the toss with the idiot who hit me from behind (apparently it was still my fault smile ).

he decided to headbutt me breaking my nose. now every ounce of me wanted to hit back, but somehow i counted to 10 and just called the police who were great.

jesta1865

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3,453 posts

230 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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NDA said:
I assume you're pressing charges? I'd make the scrote's life a legal misery.

As to the Boys in Blue, I have a lot of respect, particularly when you see the low life they have to deal with.
seems i don't get that option, he admitted it in an interview, and so gets off with a caution as its his first offence ever.

i am not sure if i can go another way.

NDA

24,339 posts

246 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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jesta1865 said:
NDA said:
I assume you're pressing charges? I'd make the scrote's life a legal misery.

As to the Boys in Blue, I have a lot of respect, particularly when you see the low life they have to deal with.
seems i don't get that option, he admitted it in an interview, and so gets off with a caution as its his first offence ever.

i am not sure if i can go another way.
A private prosecution?

It may not be your 'thing' of course to pursue somebody. But it's mine. An unprovoked assault would leave me absolutely furious and I would prosecute in any manner I could - regardless of costs (which I would add to the action).

Others here may advise you to let it go, which would be sensible (probably).

FishFace

3,790 posts

229 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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jesta1865 said:
i suspect this may get moved, but its not really a legal question as such.

For many years, I was a staunch supporter of the police in this country, then over the last 10 years I have seen my personal opinion turn 180 degrees, and I have been vocally critical of the way this country has been policed. I phrase it that way particularly as I have been aware that its policies and the odd bad apple that has coloured my views.

Well last night I needed the intervention of the police, and I have to say to the guys on the ground that they could not have been more supportive and helpful. The guy involved was arrested, banged up for several hours, and cautioned. Whilst I am upset about that, I have to be pragmatic and accept it. Plus talking to the officers involved, ruining the guys life for one moments madness seemed a bit over the top.

I spent over an hour giving a statement, the PC taking it, was diligent, careful, understanding, and made sure i was 100% happy.

I may still not agree with the policies that are pursued by the forces in this country (too politicised for me) but I now have much greater respect for the guys and ladies doing this job on the ground. Having been in the station last night and seeing some of the grief the civilian had to deal with on the front desk etc and then thinking about the fact that your average copper has to deal with that all day every day, I have a much healthier opinion of them.

Mind you I was devastated to see that the copper who took my statement looked about 14, and had to laugh when he said I was 'free to go' at the end smile
Your experience appears to be typical. The boring subject of performance measurement / analysis senior officers spend so much time worrying about shows that when people who come into contact with the police they are much more confident / satisfied than those who haven't.