Mobile phones - one day ... and two months to go
Discussion
Great isn't it? Introduce a new law, effective from 1 December 2004 ... then allow two months for drivers to "get used to it"! How's that going to work then?
Why don't they use this technique with speed limits?
Well, we all know the answer to that one ... and by implication to my first question. It will be difficult to 'police' - ie. a camera can't be set to photograph 'phone users (although this should be technically possible) and won't generate much revenue.
Mind you, if this is the start of a trend it could be interesting
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Streaky
Why don't they use this technique with speed limits?
Well, we all know the answer to that one ... and by implication to my first question. It will be difficult to 'police' - ie. a camera can't be set to photograph 'phone users (although this should be technically possible) and won't generate much revenue.
Mind you, if this is the start of a trend it could be interesting
. Streaky
Well I personally will be dishing out as many tickets for failing to comply with the new phone regs as possible.
As far as I`m concerned 99.9% of motorists realise its both a mental and physical distraction to attempt to text/speak on a mobile phone whilst driving.
I always giggle at how hot peoples phones get when they are spotted by the BIB, which causes them to drop the phones or the people who carrying on speaking into a phone when they can`t see the unmarked Traffic car alonside them..........
As far as I`m concerned 99.9% of motorists realise its both a mental and physical distraction to attempt to text/speak on a mobile phone whilst driving.
I always giggle at how hot peoples phones get when they are spotted by the BIB, which causes them to drop the phones or the people who carrying on speaking into a phone when they can`t see the unmarked Traffic car alonside them..........
will crash said:
Well I personally will be dishing out as many tickets for failing to comply with the new phone regs as possible.
As far as I`m concerned 99.9% of motorists realise its both a mental and physical distraction to attempt to text/speak on a mobile phone whilst driving.
I always giggle at how hot peoples phones get when they are spotted by the BIB, which causes them to drop the phones or the people who carrying on speaking into a phone when they can`t see the unmarked Traffic car alonside them..........
So you will be working against the guidelines, lets just hope there are no complaints, what is the situation if a guideline is issued yet you as the office choose to ignore it, nothing personal just interested, or indeed has a guidline been issued?
>> Edited by DontLift on Saturday 29th November 15:34
will crash said:
Well I personally will be dishing out as many tickets for failing to comply with the new phone regs as possible.
As far as I`m concerned 99.9% of motorists realise its both a mental and physical distraction to attempt to text/speak on a mobile phone whilst driving.
I always giggle at how hot peoples phones get when they are spotted by the BIB, which causes them to drop the phones or the people who carrying on speaking into a phone when they can`t see the unmarked Traffic car alonside them..........
thats sadly the foolish reple I expeted.
DontLift said:
So you will be working against the guidelines, lets just hope there are no complaints, what is the situation if a guideline is issued yet you as the office choose to ignore it, nothing personal just interested, or indeed has a guidline been issued?
These are exactly what they are....'Guidelines', and every Force will interpret them as they see fit.
Iam behind this particular viewpoint and dont really see the need for a 'trial time of 2 months' because motorists have been prosecuted for using a mobile when driving albeit under the guise of 'not in proper control' so it really shouldnt be a surprise should it?
>> Edited by tonyrec on Saturday 29th November 22:08
You're right too about experience ... - StreakySeems to me that there has been plenty of publicity about this new law - why not start enforcing it now and be done with it. It is just delaying the compliants about fines until february!!
If I was caught using my phone (not that I do as it is an arse whilst driving and distracting - need to look out for BiB!!!!) can I not get out of it using clause 5c , regulation 110, statutory instrument 2003 No 2695 which states:
"A person does not contravene a provision of this regulation if, at the time of the alleged contravention.. ..it is unsafe or impracticable for him to cease driving in order to make the call."
Just a thought...
If I was caught using my phone (not that I do as it is an arse whilst driving and distracting - need to look out for BiB!!!!) can I not get out of it using clause 5c , regulation 110, statutory instrument 2003 No 2695 which states:
"A person does not contravene a provision of this regulation if, at the time of the alleged contravention.. ..it is unsafe or impracticable for him to cease driving in order to make the call."
Just a thought...
jwo said:
If I was caught using my phone (not that I do as it is an arse whilst driving and distracting - need to look out for BiB!!!!) can I not get out of it using clause 5c , regulation 110, statutory instrument 2003 No 2695 which states:
"A person does not contravene a provision of this regulation if, at the time of the alleged contravention.. ..it is unsafe or impracticable for him to cease driving in order to make the call."
Without going off to look up the exact legislation, I'm pretty sure that this exemption only applies to the making of emergency calls.
We haven't been told anything about a "cooling off" period in Dorset. I showed my inspector this thread and he'd heard nothing either.
Personally, I can't imagine anything more sad than living life at the end of a phone...I'd hate to have a job where you can't be left alone, where you're constantly bothered by calls telling you what to do...
Oh, wait...
Personally, I can't imagine anything more sad than living life at the end of a phone...I'd hate to have a job where you can't be left alone, where you're constantly bothered by calls telling you what to do...
Oh, wait...
will crash said:
Well I personally will be dishing out as many tickets for failing to comply with the new phone regs as possible.
As far as I`m concerned 99.9% of motorists realise its both a mental and physical distraction to attempt to text/speak on a mobile phone whilst driving.
Will, you already had the power to convict someone who *is* distracted by thier mobile. (Not in proper control, Dnagerous, Careless) What you're talking about is convicting the people who *aren't* distracted or driving badly.
Yet another law aimed at legal safe drivers. And another group of keen policmen looking to alienate the public as much as possible.
Bring back Carter and Regan.
>> Edited by toad_oftoadhall on Monday 1st December 16:48
tonyrec said:
Sadly, there are people who use a phone at slow speed etc who are perfectly safe but sadly the law cant diferentiate between good eggs and bad eggs
Not often I disagree with you TR but:
Yes it can - it did do up until today!
There were all sorts off offences for people distracted by using their mobile phones. Not being in proper control, Careless or Dangerous driving.
The new law has two aims 1) Criminalise those who are *safely* using a mobile while driving. 2) Enable proper dangerous drivers distracted by their mobile to be let off with a small fixed penalty fine.
Why would the authorties want to punish safe driving and excuse dangerous driving? To piss the public off.
QED.
[Mutters angrily to self]
jwo said:
Lexsport - no, legislation has a separate bit for emergency calls - seems a rather ambiguous loophole. (And no, I'm not sad looking at the legislation - need to keep our company informed on H&S!!)
JWO, having taken another look I agree. Does seem a bit odd.
If anyone's interested, the legislation is reproduced here:
www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=7530
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