See how Arrive Deprived are spending YOUR money
See how Arrive Deprived are spending YOUR money
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puggit

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49,343 posts

269 months

Friday 5th December 2003
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http://icnorthwales.icnetwork.co.uk/news/regionalnews/content_objectid=13689389_method=full_siteid=50142_headline=-Warning-signs-for-motorists-at-schools-name_page.html

FLASHING signs are to go up out-side North Wales schools to warn drivers they are speeding.

Paid for by the Arrive Alive road-side camera scheme, the interactive signs will be triggered by a vehicle which has broken the limit.

And fines paid by speeding motorists are creating extra jobs on North Wales councils.

Five safer speeds officers are to be employed, paid for by the controversial Arrive Alive speed camera scheme.

Three have already been appointed to cover Gwynedd, Anglesey and Wrexham.

"The Arrive Alive strategy is not just about enforcement but about education," declares chief constable Richard Brunstrom in a report to his Police Authority tomorrow.

He says the five officers are "to engage with communities, schools and local groups in order to reinforce the message that excessive and inappropriate speed is not acceptable."

Another £150,000 is being spent on the interactive signs, due to be introduced next year.

Mr Brunstrom says of Arrive Alive: "The project continues to carry out presentations and road shows.

"A demonstration of the equipment is now part of the probationer-training package. This ensures that all new officers are aware of the importance of leading by example when driving police vehicles and will help lead to the success of the project."

The interactive signs will include devices which flash speeds to passing cars near schools and at other vulnerable points.

At Conwy council a woman was appointed last month on a fixed contract and has the job title of "safer roads officer".

Her job includes checking to ensure the legality of various traffic orders, such as temporary speed limits, and to "promote and market" safer roads, visiting schools and specifically targeting sixth-formers and 17 year olds learning to drive.

The council already has a road safety officer. "It's a job that's just getting bigger," explained a council spokeswoman yesterday.

dazren

22,612 posts

282 months

Friday 5th December 2003
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Isn't it about time they taught kids that stepping into the road without checking for traffic is likely to get them killed? what about banning pedestrians from using mobiles. It would probably save more lives than banning motorists using hand held phones.

Stuff this "speed kills" nonsense, what about a new mantra to teach the public.

"Don't look, step out, DIE"

DAZ

>> Edited by dazren on Friday 5th December 14:18

Peter Ward

2,097 posts

277 months

Friday 5th December 2003
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puggit quoting Brunstrom said:
...to reinforce the message that excessive and inappropriate speed is not acceptable...

How clever of him publicly to state something that anyone would agree with but actually to be doing something completely different. What he really means is anything above the speed limits he sets.

stooz

3,005 posts

305 months

Friday 5th December 2003
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so why are the majority of ACTUAL cameras on open NSL roads? surely cameras for schools, warning signs for deserted country roads?

Tafia

2,658 posts

269 months

Friday 5th December 2003
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puggit said:
http://icnorthwales.icnetwork.co.uk/news/regionalnews/content_objectid=13689389_method=full_siteid=50142_headline=-Warning-signs-for-motorists-at-schools-name_page.html

FLASHING signs are to go up out-side North Wales schools to warn drivers they are speeding.

Paid for by the Arrive Alive road-side camera scheme, the interactive signs will be triggered by a vehicle which has broken the limit.

And fines paid by speeding motorists are creating extra jobs on North Wales councils.

Five safer speeds officers are to be employed, paid for by the controversial Arrive Alive speed camera scheme.

Three have already been appointed to cover Gwynedd, Anglesey and Wrexham.

"The Arrive Alive strategy is not just about enforcement but about education," declares chief constable Richard Brunstrom in a report to his Police Authority tomorrow.

He says the five officers are "to engage with communities, schools and local groups in order to reinforce the message that excessive and inappropriate speed is not acceptable."

Another £150,000 is being spent on the interactive signs, due to be introduced next year.

Mr Brunstrom says of Arrive Alive: "The project continues to carry out presentations and road shows.

"A demonstration of the equipment is now part of the probationer-training package. This ensures that all new officers are aware of the importance of leading by example when driving police vehicles and will help lead to the success of the project."

The interactive signs will include devices which flash speeds to passing cars near schools and at other vulnerable points.

At Conwy council a woman was appointed last month on a fixed contract and has the job title of "safer roads officer".

Her job includes checking to ensure the legality of various traffic orders, such as temporary speed limits, and to "promote and market" safer roads, visiting schools and specifically targeting sixth-formers and 17 year olds learning to drive.

The council already has a road safety officer. "It's a job that's just getting bigger," explained a council spokeswoman yesterday.


Isn't this just typical of the winkers. They are now giving the impression that as long as we don't exceed 30 mph outside a school, we will never be involved in an accident. How mad is that? To pass a school entrance/exit at 30 mph at chucking out time would be crazy.

As Paul Smith keeps reminding us, you can't measure safe speed in miles per hour.

streaky

19,311 posts

270 months

Saturday 6th December 2003
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puggit said:
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"The Arrive Alive strategy is not just about enforcement but about education," declares chief constable Richard Brunstrom in a report to his Police Authority tomorrow.

He says the five officers are "to engage with communities, schools and local groups in order to reinforce the message that excessive and inappropriate speed is not acceptable."
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Dear Mr Brunstrom,

It will come as no surprise to members of PistonHeads and other like-minded fora that your choice of word (italicised above) aptly demonstrates your own need for education.

The word that most ably conveys your sentiments, and therefore the word that you should, in truth and honesty, have used is "indoctrination".

Yours, in hope of your early retirement,
Streaky