What if?
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deltaf

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Monday 15th December 2003
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What if you come across a scamera thats already been burnt out, and you then go burn it again?
Is it an offence?
Its kinda like shooting a dead body after they died isnt it?
Not really a specific offence, but i stand to be corrected.

Any BIB's know the answer to this one?

wanty1974

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269 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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What a cracking question! Where do you get them from delta?

deltaf

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Monday 15th December 2003
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lol was prompted by the one in general gassing mate!
Just occurred to me that a lot of fun could be had.
I mean, can they charge you with arson, if you set fire to the ruins of a building?
Im just thinking that itd deffo make a statement, and imagine if you pulled by the plods for it and your excuse was: "it was already burnt, so i thought id burn it again"...... or " the flames were dying down so i threw a bit more petrol on it"......As long as you didnt START the fire? I wonder!


>> Edited by deltaf on Monday 15th December 11:35

tonyrec

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276 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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Good question......

It would certainly be the same offence, because, hypotheticly you couldnt burn it exactly the same way, apart from the fact that you would, in the extreme....be burning agian something that has already been burnt. Then theres always the offence of Attempting to cause Criminal Damage.

deltaf

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Monday 15th December 2003
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tonyrec said:
Good question......

It would certainly be the same offence, because, hypotheticly you couldnt burn it exactly the same way, apart from the fact that you would, in the extreme....be burning agian something that has already been burnt. Then theres always the offence of Attempting to cause Criminal Damage.



Damaging something thats already been wrecked tho TC?
Surely itd not be the same offence?
Suppose someone ELSE set fire to it, and instead of attempting to extinguish it (lord knows why ... ) you just fuelled it a bit?


>> Edited by deltaf on Monday 15th December 11:41

mybrainhurts

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276 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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Errr.........

Wouldn't it be more productive to go and burn another one.........or have I missed something?

wanty1974

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269 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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Could you really be done for attempted criminal damage on something that is already criminally damaged in a terminal state?

Say for intance delta knocks down my garden wall for a laugh and then my neighbour kicks the stones about a bit- can the neighbour get done the same as delta?

puggit

49,388 posts

269 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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I'd suggest your neighbour should be sectioned!

wanty1974

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Monday 15th December 2003
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You haven't met him... he probably has been sectioned in the past...

trefor

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304 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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If it's already burning and you throw water onto the fire to try and put it out then that's surely OK. But not if you accidentally pick the container with petrol in it

tonyrec

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276 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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I think that you have to look at it in the right context.

If the camera was just a pile of ashes then it wouldnt be Criminal damage, you would, as has already been mentioned, need sectioning pretty damn quickly.

However, if the camera was burnt out and you were seen to set it on fire again, then Criminal damage would be the offence that i would certainly arrest you for.It may well not get you to court though, as it all depends on the degree of damage and any other witnesses etc.

It would certainly get me back to a nick for a cup of tea me thinks.

deltaf

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Monday 15th December 2003
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Ta very muchly!

mybrainhurts

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Monday 15th December 2003
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deltaf said:
Ta very muchly!


Am I being perverse, or are you just thinking of excuses in case they catch you at it.........??

nonegreen

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291 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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Does that mean its OK to kill Begg/Brunstrom because he is brain dead already?

deltaf

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Monday 15th December 2003
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mybrainhurts said:

deltaf said:
Ta very muchly!



Am I being perverse, or are you just thinking of excuses in case they catch you at it.........??


Maybe...maybe not!

llamekcuf

545 posts

275 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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nonegreen said:
Does that mean its OK to kill Begg/Brunstrom because he is brain dead already?


quality!