Front Number Plate
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Venom

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1,864 posts

280 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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It's a question that DangerMouse and I were mulling over yesterday, what are the regs with regard to your front number plate?

Does it have to be a specific size or can you have one that is cut down in size? I vaguely remember something about the spacing between each 'digit' has to be consistent, and I'd guess that the letters have to be plain and of a specific size?

I've seen a lot of plates recently that I guessed would be illegal, but the thought here was more so as to get a plate that it interferes as little as possible with the air intake and the general form of the front end of the car rather than have something you'd associate with a maxxer.

Can someone help clear this one up please?

Cheers,
Mike

Plotloss

67,280 posts

291 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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The lettering has to be evenly spaced and conform to a standard font.

If this is adhered to it makes no odds if the plate itself is 1mm bigger than the font or the same size as the car...

paolow

3,258 posts

279 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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can i hijack this thread a little?

are those stick on vinyl plates legal? i rather fancy one for the nosecone of my 7 as opposed to the standard rigid ones, but not quite sure of the law.
any tips?

tonyrec

3,984 posts

276 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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Plotloss said:

If this is adhered to it makes no odds if the plate itself is 1mm bigger than the font or the same size as the car...


It does have to be a certain size at the top and sides.

gavyn

105 posts

268 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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tonyrec said:

Plotloss said:

If this is adhered to it makes no odds if the plate itself is 1mm bigger than the font or the same size as the car...



It does have to be a certain size at the top and sides.



As I thought. There are specific clearance distances surrounding the digits.

Seem to remember this causing a problem when they first introduced the number plates with the little blue euro portion on the left edge. Some cars at the time didn't have a large enough cutaway for the extra length plates but they couldn't reduce the size of the plate because the textual region had to be the fixed size.

jwo

986 posts

270 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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and how can Enzo, Zonda, Koeniggsegg etc. drivers get away without a front number plate...

and, how can the WRc cars registered in UK (that should conform to DoT legislation) have tiny front number plates and appear to get away with it in the UK (unless they are speeding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

tonyrec

3,984 posts

276 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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The answer is simple, they have not met a Trafpol yet

Plotloss

67,280 posts

291 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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Rover 75?

I cant believe no one has come up against a copper...

tonyrec

3,984 posts

276 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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On a standard car, the border dimensions are as follows.
1) Top Margin =1/2 inch
2) Side Margin= 1 inch

On Motorcycles it is different -:

1) Top Margin= 1/2 inch
2) Side Margin= 1/2 inch

Hope that this clears up the confusion

tonyrec

3,984 posts

276 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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Plotloss said:
Rover 75?

I cant believe no one has come up against a copper...


Yes i know what you mean....but in reality, i/we are only concerned with the minimum standards.

knowley

145 posts

299 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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paolow said:
can i hijack this thread a little?

are those stick on vinyl plates legal? i rather fancy one for the nosecone of my 7 as opposed to the standard rigid ones, but not quite sure of the law.
any tips?




Yeah what about the Se7ens

We have to have this great big board stuck to the front of the car which is in danger of speed lumps, humps n bumps etc.

Even though the stick on plates aren't strictly legal would Trafpol let you off if the plate conformed to letter font, size regulations. I believe they aren't strictly legal because no one makes them with the BSB kite mark.

Currently stick ons are the only sensible way to display the registration on a Se7en. As someone mentioned things like Enzos don't have a front plate, and the road going Radical seems to be built, sold and SVA'd with a stick on plate!

>> Edited by knowley on Monday 15th December 16:22

>> Edited by knowley on Monday 15th December 16:23

bongomania

105 posts

270 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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You can get stick on front plates for a seven that comply with the kite mark. Email me knowley and I will let you know where.

Better still - dont bother with the front plate - they look naff - especially on a seven. Been pulled and had the car checked over with no word about the missing front plate. Why bother being a little bit illegal - do it properly.

This topic was covered here recently : www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?t=70261&f=10&h=0

but I didn't really get an answer from a Bib - questions repeated below
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What would the Bibs do when a car has no front plate?

Car in question is a seven and just looks silly with a front plate. Stick ons are an option but prefer the naked look.

I have been pulled over by a Bib previously who took a good look over the car - didn't notice the plate missing. He did comment when he couldn't see the tax disc which is low down on the muffler (heat stops scotes nicking it off the seven) He advised I should put it back on the windscreen as this is the law.

I could not see the point as I will soon have no windscreen (aeroscreen). Also would they pull someone over driving a car with no windscreen wearing a helmet?


>> Edited by bongomania on Monday 15th December 17:34

tonyrec

3,984 posts

276 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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You would get stopped and given a ticket for no front index plate.
The reason for this is that we have forward facing ANPR's etc etc.

As for using the car without a windscreen and wearing a crash hat...it certainly wouldnt bother me considering the car you have..but if it was on a family car then i would stop it and have a chat with the driver

nonegreen

7,803 posts

291 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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tonyrec said:
You would get stopped and given a ticket for no front index plate.
The reason for this is that we have forward facing ANPR's etc etc.

As for using the car without a windscreen and wearing a crash hat...it certainly wouldnt bother me considering the car you have..but if it was on a family car then i would stop it and have a chat with the driver


Mmm any points attached to that ticket? If not No plate coming off Porsche

fish

4,054 posts

303 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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As I understand it a Defaced number plate or covered up is three points and upto a grand fine.

NO numberplate at all is £30 non endorsable

HarryW

15,775 posts

290 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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What if it was broken on that day/journey and you weren't aware and then got pulled . Small hammer anyone = £30 in my book, not £60 + 3 points , it has merit .

Harry

tonyrec

3,984 posts

276 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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fish said:
As I understand it a Defaced number plate or covered up is three points and upto a grand fine.

NO numberplate at all is £30 non endorsable



I think that in reality, if theres nothing further (long list of Police interest conc deceptions etc), it will all be a £30 fine.

andygo

7,252 posts

276 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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So why bother with one on the M6, for instance.

Do you think Velcro would work???

For £30 it's almost worth it for the 'crack'.

Devils Advocate

44 posts

275 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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If it's fallen off on your present journey it would be 'reasonable' to have it in the boot until you get home

Cooperman

4,428 posts

271 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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The smart answer is to snap your front plate in half and re-fit one half. The scamera lot are not allowed to guess what the full number is - trhe photo must show the full plate. That way, if you get pulled over by the BiB you say that you must have hit a pheasant and half the plate snapped off. That's £30 and no points. Why not keep a half plate for long nightime motorway journeys and re-fit the full plate for shorter slower local trips?
Also, mud on the rear plate is good too.