I've just been stopped by the police
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I was walking along minding my own business when the police stopped me. To cut a long story short, a man who looked 20-30 years of age with dark hair had been exposing himself to children, so the police were stopping anyone who matched that description.
It was basically a stop and search, but they forgot to search me, and when they filled in the stop and search form, they put me down as British when I said I'm English and said they had stopped me in Hall Green Lane when they had actually stopped me in Hutton Village.
I asked what they would do with this information and they told me it would be kept on a database for the rest of my life. There has been a number of stories in the news recently about stuff like this showing up in CRB checks and preventing people from getting jobs, does anyone know if what happened is likely to cause problems for me, or what database the information will be put on?
I'd like to do a CRB check to see what it says about me, but individuals aren't allowed to do them, which means you don't know you are listed as a paedo until the person interviewing you for your dream job tells you!
It was basically a stop and search, but they forgot to search me, and when they filled in the stop and search form, they put me down as British when I said I'm English and said they had stopped me in Hall Green Lane when they had actually stopped me in Hutton Village.
I asked what they would do with this information and they told me it would be kept on a database for the rest of my life. There has been a number of stories in the news recently about stuff like this showing up in CRB checks and preventing people from getting jobs, does anyone know if what happened is likely to cause problems for me, or what database the information will be put on?
I'd like to do a CRB check to see what it says about me, but individuals aren't allowed to do them, which means you don't know you are listed as a paedo until the person interviewing you for your dream job tells you!
You were given a stop and account form which police are obliged to complete when they ask you what you are doing.
It is not a criminal record and will not show on a CRB check. It will be kept on the issuing force's computer system but means nothing more than you were asked to account for you presence in that location.
You may be annoyed that your details will be retained but it will not affect you in any way. (IYSWIM)
It is not a criminal record and will not show on a CRB check. It will be kept on the issuing force's computer system but means nothing more than you were asked to account for you presence in that location.
You may be annoyed that your details will be retained but it will not affect you in any way. (IYSWIM)
I complained to the police about something similar when it happened to me and sited the data protection act in my complaint. I am fairly sure if you found somone expensive enough they would be able to argue the point that the get out clause applying to crime statistics doesn't count as no crime was commited. Something of use I did find out though is you dont have to tell them a thing. Unless your being charged you can just say your not going to share personal information.
Steve126 said:
I was walking along minding my own business when the police stopped me. To cut a long story short, a man who looked 20-30 years of age with dark hair had been exposing himself to children, so the police were stopping anyone who matched that description.
It was basically a stop and search, but they forgot to search me, and when they filled in the stop and search form, they put me down as British when I said I'm English and said they had stopped me in Hall Green Lane when they had actually stopped me in Hutton Village.
I asked what they would do with this information and they told me it would be kept on a database for the rest of my life. There has been a number of stories in the news recently about stuff like this showing up in CRB checks and preventing people from getting jobs, does anyone know if what happened is likely to cause problems for me, or what database the information will be put on?
I'd like to do a CRB check to see what it says about me, but individuals aren't allowed to do them, which means you don't know you are listed as a paedo until the person interviewing you for your dream job tells you!
They put you down as British cos that is your official nationality. Can't hold an English passport can you... Getting the location wrong is slightly more surprising.It was basically a stop and search, but they forgot to search me, and when they filled in the stop and search form, they put me down as British when I said I'm English and said they had stopped me in Hall Green Lane when they had actually stopped me in Hutton Village.
I asked what they would do with this information and they told me it would be kept on a database for the rest of my life. There has been a number of stories in the news recently about stuff like this showing up in CRB checks and preventing people from getting jobs, does anyone know if what happened is likely to cause problems for me, or what database the information will be put on?
I'd like to do a CRB check to see what it says about me, but individuals aren't allowed to do them, which means you don't know you are listed as a paedo until the person interviewing you for your dream job tells you!
I got stopped years a go in the car, and was asked my occupation by the officer, I told him that it has got nothing to do with why he stopped me and didn't tell him, he was a bit taken back but know that I was right.
When my mate fills in questionars/non legal forms he put down "Pimp" as his occupation.
When my mate fills in questionars/non legal forms he put down "Pimp" as his occupation.
Battenburg Bob said:
rypt said:
Wonderful waste of police resources
What a bizarre comment. A man exposing himself to children and you don't think they should be looking for him!The mind boggles.
rypt said:
Battenburg Bob said:
rypt said:
Wonderful waste of police resources
What a bizarre comment. A man exposing himself to children and you don't think they should be looking for him!The mind boggles.
Would you prefer plod to do a knob inspection / ID parade instead ?
tonycott said:
I got stopped years a go in the car, and was asked my occupation by the officer, I told him that it has got nothing to do with why he stopped me and didn't tell him, he was a bit taken back but know that I was right.
When my mate fills in questionars/non legal forms he put down "Pimp" as his occupation.
"Spaceman!" is mine.... When my mate fills in questionars/non legal forms he put down "Pimp" as his occupation.
Good on the police for searching for a Paedo, and pro-actively approaching people asking them for details.
I hope that at least one of the people they stopped may actually turn out to be the sicko...
If this happens again, then they can cross reference data collected on this date, to the data on the next occasion.
(shame one of them had to be you, probably embarrasing - but hey ho you have nowt to worry about!).
I hope that at least one of the people they stopped may actually turn out to be the sicko...
If this happens again, then they can cross reference data collected on this date, to the data on the next occasion.
(shame one of them had to be you, probably embarrasing - but hey ho you have nowt to worry about!).
Edited by Gallen on Friday 17th July 13:40
rypt said:
Steve126 said:
To cut a long story short, a man who looked 20-30 years of age with dark hair had been exposing himself to children, so the police were stopping anyone who matched that description.
Wonderful waste of police resourcesBert
BertBert said:
rypt said:
Steve126 said:
To cut a long story short, a man who looked 20-30 years of age with dark hair had been exposing himself to children, so the police were stopping anyone who matched that description.
Wonderful waste of police resourcesAt the start they didn't tell me why they had stopped me, they just started asking loads of questions. I told them that I wasn't prepared to give them the info they wanted and be put on a database for the rest of my life, but they said they would take that as a sign of guilt and arrest me.
I didn't fancy being dragged down the station and having finger prints, DNA sample, and photo taken so I ended up telling them what they wanted. The thing that had me worried is the story about the woman who left her children unattended in the park for a few minutes, committed no crime, but the police saw her children and took her details and she can no longer get the job she wanted because the CRB class her as a danger to children.
I didn't fancy being dragged down the station and having finger prints, DNA sample, and photo taken so I ended up telling them what they wanted. The thing that had me worried is the story about the woman who left her children unattended in the park for a few minutes, committed no crime, but the police saw her children and took her details and she can no longer get the job she wanted because the CRB class her as a danger to children.
Steve126 said:
At the start they didn't tell me why they had stopped me, they just started asking loads of questions. I told them that I wasn't prepared to give them the info they wanted and be put on a database for the rest of my life, but they said they would take that as a sign of guilt and arrest me.
I didn't fancy being dragged down the station and having finger prints, DNA sample, and photo taken so I ended up telling them what they wanted. The thing that had me worried is the story about the woman who left her children unattended in the park for a few minutes, committed no crime, but the police saw her children and took her details and she can no longer get the job she wanted because the CRB class her as a danger to children.
Have you checked up whether the report of the phantom flasher was genuine? IMO It would be easy to just stop a person and tell them the reason they have been stopped is because they are looking for someone that, surprise surprise looks just like them(them as in the person they've stopped, not 'them' as in dressed like a copper) .I didn't fancy being dragged down the station and having finger prints, DNA sample, and photo taken so I ended up telling them what they wanted. The thing that had me worried is the story about the woman who left her children unattended in the park for a few minutes, committed no crime, but the police saw her children and took her details and she can no longer get the job she wanted because the CRB class her as a danger to children.
I was stopped (admittedly it was 20 years ago)whilst going to work at 3am on my bicycle all kitted up, the policeman looked me up and down and said he was looking for a suspected burgler wearing basically the same clothes as me.
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