Oh sugar - Speeding License Points On There Way!
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M1, Heading North from Bham to Bradford, and got caught by a lazer gun and complete a**hole of a enforcement office (Police Car)
This guy decides to check everything - redefines proper job. So he starts with the Tax check, then the insurance....and not wanting to give up to quick goes for the driving license check - which i had no problem with, as i passed when i was 18.
Turns out that my license has been revoked. up until now - i have had not to many points (6 Due Care 2000), however it turns out that they requested the license back in 2000, and because i did not send it - they revoked it!!! - DOH!!
ok so now the guy is like - well unless your wife can drive you, i can not allow you to take the car!!! and remember this is mid afternoon on the M1 trying to get upto Bradford for a wedding - so i said ok, she is allowed to drive the car because the insurance on the A-Class allows her to drive any other car.
Now the guy is being an a**, so now he phones the insurance checks my spouses policy out - and even with them TELLING him that she is allowed to drive the car - he insists that she is not!!! so he forces me to buy a stupiddly (because i have no comparison) expensive insurance policy - just so that i can travel to Bradford!
I have just spent the morning trying to get the D1 (Application for driving license form) completed - so that when the police prosecute me, i will have the required documentation to goto court with.
not sure whats going to happen, but i suspect something like a book being flung my way!!! I think it will be:
3 points for speeding (93MPH)
6 points for not being able to produce a valid driving license
6 points for no insurance because of the above (driving another car, with the car belonging to me)
HUCK SAKE!!!
ps: i know i was speeding, it was my fault. i dont expect to get away with it or anything, so i was just vetting my anger!!!
Ok - so from where I'm sitting: you got points back in 2000, so the DVLA requested your licence. You didn't return it, so they correctly revoked it. In the intervening period you've been driving unlicensed & therefore uninsured. Whilst speeding this was discovered. The policeman who discovered this refused to let you drive any further. As the car is registered to you, & insured in your name, your passenger cannot legally drive the car - the car is not insured. Had she done so & you'd hit someone else, she would be uninsured. Had either of you crashed into me I'd have sued your backsides until the end of time, & also him for letting you go. Had you killed my kids etc sueing would be the least of your worries...fortunately he gave you the chance to purchase the correct insurance for your wife before continueing your journey. And you're b
hing about the price & not being allowed to haggle?
Moral of the story? You can work that out.
hing about the price & not being allowed to haggle?Moral of the story? You can work that out.
Yes, I'm afraid you were caught bang to rights unlicensed. DVLA don't request your licence back for no reason and they are entirely within their rights to revoke it.
As I read it, the OP's wife has DOC on her policy on her own car. So she should have been able to drive his car on that insurance, I don't quite understand why they needed to buy more insurance.
I find it interesting that you were caught by a police car, actually. They DO exist!
As I read it, the OP's wife has DOC on her policy on her own car. So she should have been able to drive his car on that insurance, I don't quite understand why they needed to buy more insurance.
I find it interesting that you were caught by a police car, actually. They DO exist!
Gizmo! said:
As I read it, the OP's wife has DOC on her policy on her own car. So she should have been able to drive his car on that insurance, I don't quite understand why they needed to buy more insurance.
yep, I'm a bit hazy on the full complexities, but it may be to do with the car itself needing to be covered in some way. Her DOC will be 3rd Party only, so leaving the car vulnerable, although the circumstances that would make that a problem I can't work out. Who knows, I guess? My ambition is to not end up having those conversations anyway!so to be clear?
insurance was no doubt taken out by the policy holder with a full valid uk licence... this was not the case and therefore the insurance is not valid and therefore the car was not insured at all... therefore other policies that allow the insured to drive any vehicle as long as it is insured wont cover the unisured car.
sounds like the copper was right to me
best get the licence pronto and hope the judge is very understanding
insurance was no doubt taken out by the policy holder with a full valid uk licence... this was not the case and therefore the insurance is not valid and therefore the car was not insured at all... therefore other policies that allow the insured to drive any vehicle as long as it is insured wont cover the unisured car.
sounds like the copper was right to me
best get the licence pronto and hope the judge is very understanding
andygtt said:
other policies that allow the insured to drive any vehicle as long as it is insured wont cover the unisured car.
Having read my own insurance cert, I think that's the key to it actually. The car needs to be insured in its own right (or you get the situation where Junior drives a car nominally owned but not insured by Dad).Redarress said:
SittingBull are you in the job ?
What do you mean? What's "The Job?". No, I am not the filth. I absolutely detest 19-25 year old little sts hiding in their "only open from 0900-1600" hideaways.Last July our "upstanding" police put a helicopter above my Norfolk house, sealed off my village & had 6 armed police surround my house with SA-80 assault rifles. When I saw somebody (a copper - as it turned out) lurking behind a fence in my 1/2 acre back garden I went out with a very large knife, expecting a gypsy assault. Two young coppers with loaded SA-80's leapt out, threw me to the ground, handcuffed me & rushed me to Norwich Bethel Street cells for 12 hours. Then, after an interview where I was accused of using a non-existant rifle on a car that had apparently pulled across my drive, I was released without charge. Am I bitter? Absolutely YES. I served my Country for 16 years in the armed forces.
The two young coppers that day were very lucky that they had hidden themselves 30 yards from me, had infra-red top cover from a helicopter & approx 66 rounds of 5.62mm between them. As far as I was concerned I was about to be burgled/assaulted by Gypsies & they were about to be confronted by a knife-wielding madman (me) protecting his family & property.
Be aware that in Britain we have ever creeping abilities by the Constabulary to willy nilly despatch young & totally inexperienced armed response teams to innocuous incidents. I was lucky (?) in that one of the armed coppers was ex-RAF Regiment so knew to hold back until attacked.
There but for the Grace of God go you all. Get shut of Gordon Brown - who is a liar along the likes of Blair & the Queer Mandelson. (Labour seems to like Queers).
Report a crime & risk being shot....
if your license was revoked in 2000, the police will be checking all your insurance policies that you have taken out since then, which is very easy to do. They will clearly all be invalid and if you have had a claim between 2000 and now, that will be classed as fraud since you clearly gave false information (saying you had a valid license) on the insurance declarations.
myke b said:
Police with SA-80's? That not seem a bit strange to you too, having been serving?
Indeed, and the quote of 5.62mm instead of 5.56mm 
If any of that happened of course.
As far as I'm aware no UK civvie Police force use SA80's, or any 'assult rifle' for that matter.
Single shot spec HK MP5's are the norm.
Edited by aeropilot on Friday 4th September 08:36
AngryApples said:
myke b said:
Police with SA-80's? That not seem a bit strange to you too, having been serving?
YesI cry utter, utter BS
Edited by AngryApples on Friday 4th September 09:36
I see helicopters overhead, what can it be....... ?
Gypsies! Of course!
Now, where's my long knife....
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