another reason to arm our police
another reason to arm our police
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cortinaman

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3,230 posts

274 months

Friday 26th December 2003
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ive just seen on the news (news 24) that 2 trafpol have been shot in leeds.

afaik thats WELL out of order and i hope that trafpol get their hands on the ba**ards who did this.

this sort of thing should NEVER happen,the guys are mearly doing their jobs,these c***s are obviously dodgy if they had a shooter and i hope the armed response units forget about the p.c 'dont shoot first' bull and blow what they have for brains out the back of their feckin heads.

scum!......they are nothing but fecking scum!

good will to all men??.......IS IT BOLLOCKS!

xxxxxxrich

188 posts

266 months

Friday 26th December 2003
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TWO POLICEMEN SHOT IN LEEDS


Two police officers have been shot and seriously injured while on duty.

The traffic officers were shot after they stopped a car at about 4pm in Leeds, a West Yorkshire Police spokesman said.


Both policemen were taken to a hospital in the city with serious injuries.

The incident happened on Dib Lane, near the junction with Easterly Road in the Roundhay area of the city.

After the shooting, the gunman stopped two people who were passing in a car and stole their vehicle, leaving them standing on the pavement.

More follows...

deltaf

6,806 posts

274 months

Friday 26th December 2003
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Says something for not only the cops being armed, but also civvies too.
Compulsory training and exams would also help to stop these scum from doing as they please.
Would you risk taking on a possible armed civvie?
Nope. Would you risk taking on an unarmed civvie? Certainly!

rospa

494 posts

269 months

Friday 26th December 2003
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One officer has now died. F***! Capital punishment, anyone?

Jim'schim

502 posts

273 months

Friday 26th December 2003
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deltaf said:
Says something for not only the cops being armed, but also civvies too.
Compulsory training and exams would also help to stop these scum from doing as they please.
Would you risk taking on a possible armed civvie?
Nope. Would you risk taking on an unarmed civvie? Certainly!


Indeed, imagine a country with armed police, and where the civillians have the "right to bear arms" I mean, there would be no gun crime would there. I'm surprised that no country is like that

cortinaman

Original Poster:

3,230 posts

274 months

Friday 26th December 2003
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my condolences go out to the families of these officers.

over the last few years the level of police being shot by scum has got rediculous and SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT THESE COP-KILLING BASTARDS!!

the only thing that comes to mind is reinstating the death penalty and giving cops either 357 magnum handguns or issuing tasers.

>> Edited by cortinaman on Friday 26th December 20:48

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

283 months

Friday 26th December 2003
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Jim'schim said:


deltaf said:
Says something for not only the cops being armed, but also civvies too.
Compulsory training and exams would also help to stop these scum from doing as they please.
Would you risk taking on a possible armed civvie?
Nope. Would you risk taking on an unarmed civvie? Certainly!




Indeed, imagine a country with armed police, and where the civillians have the "right to bear arms" I mean, there would be no gun crime would there. I'm surprised that no country is like that


never mind the right to bear arms, make it COMPULSARY!!
and declare an open season on the scum!!

(that should get the PH lentalists trolls going)

MoJo




>> Edited by Mojocvh on Saturday 27th December 00:43

streaky

19,311 posts

270 months

Friday 26th December 2003
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I fail to understand how this could happen. After all, the 1968 Fireams Act, as variously amended since, was supposed to remove (the majority of) such dangerous weapons from the public domain (and from the private domain too).

Cynic? Moi?

Streaky

As one who has carried and fired (against people) a side-arm and has been wounded twice, I have strong empathy with the family of the dead policeman, with the wounded policeman and his family, and with the colleagues of both officers - who will, I am certain, continue to do their duty in their usual brave and professional manner - S

nonegreen

7,803 posts

291 months

Friday 26th December 2003
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My sympathies go out out to the families of these policemen. I think though that the banning things culture has to take at least some of the blame. The current lot of useless politicians (and I include in that some chief constables) seem incapable of providing us with legislation that attacks criminals. All they seem to do is ban things so legitimate citizens suffer and the crims laugh and carry on regardless. This liberal negative shittiness is thrusting Britain ever closer to terminal mediocraty. The political trash have no stomach for proper penalties. In China you are allowed 1 kid. The liberal shite tell us that chinese people who have 2 kids get fined. The reality is the family police go into every home and measure waists. When women get pregnant with second kid they are taken to hospital and they go home not pregnant. I don't support this idea, I dont think we should run our society this way but as an aproach it is certainly effective. Nick one car, get assigned social worker, nick second car do 10 years breaking rocks or better still building roads. Prison costs down to zero overnight.

Apache

39,731 posts

305 months

Saturday 27th December 2003
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legislation will always penalise the innocent, our liberty is being minimised by this on an almost daily basis, why? because a career scrote will have all the time in the world to work around it while the honest citizen is too busy earning a crust to bother/believes the law works for them/has been brought up not to question authority.

cortinaman

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3,230 posts

274 months

Saturday 27th December 2003
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you lost your bet........so please give the £10 to the police widows and orphans fund.

(the description of the offender is in the news report)

>> Edited by Mrs Fish on Saturday 27th December 08:23

Roadrage

603 posts

265 months

Saturday 27th December 2003
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not saying any thing about what happend.

there want any need to shot em

but I dont think arming all police is a very good idear.

Im nor a particular fan of shooters.

but the day the plod start carying them.

is the day I will start carrieing one.


>> Edited by Roadrage on Saturday 27th December 02:56

Roadrage

603 posts

265 months

Saturday 27th December 2003
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cortinaman said:
my condolences go out to the families of these officers.

over the last few years the level of police being shot by scum has got rediculous and SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT THESE COP-KILLING BASTARDS!!

the only thing that comes to mind is reinstating the death penalty and giving cops either 357 magnum handguns or issuing tasers.

>> Edited by cortinaman on Friday 26th December 20:48


until you up for the next neck streaching up.

cortinaman

Original Poster:

3,230 posts

274 months

Saturday 27th December 2003
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Roadrage said:

cortinaman said:
my condolences go out to the families of these officers.

over the last few years the level of police being shot by scum has got rediculous and SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT THESE COP-KILLING BASTARDS!!

the only thing that comes to mind is reinstating the death penalty and giving cops either 357 magnum handguns or issuing tasers.

>> Edited by cortinaman on Friday 26th December 20:48



until you up for the next neck streaching up.



i have been there,seen it,bought the t-shirt,worn it out and threw it away mate but you get fartknockers in every job.issueing the police firearms or tasers is coming,no matter what anyone thinks...its just a matter of when.(iirc the police are already testing tasers)

i just hope they catch the c**t who did this and string him up by his gonads!

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

265 months

Saturday 27th December 2003
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Help the BiB

The car hijacked yesterday afternoon is a:

GREEN ROVER 600 - L410 PMB

Keep you eyes open if you are out and about, especially around the Leeds area and if seen
DO NOT APPROACH but inform Police p.d.q.

10.38am Pleased to report the vehicle has been found and now in Police hands.

DVD

>> Edited by Dwight VanDriver on Saturday 27th December 07:16

>> Edited by Dwight VanDriver on Saturday 27th December 10:36

Mrs Fish

30,018 posts

279 months

Saturday 27th December 2003
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If anyone is confused, I deleted a post that wasn't really adding to the discussion, and therefore had to edit subsequent posts

JMGS4

8,875 posts

291 months

Saturday 27th December 2003
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My condolences to the BiBs family and hope that the guy in IC will get well and have no lingering damage.
Be careful out there!

Remains only to hope that the labour and liberal SCUM who got rid of hanging bring it back in time to hang the barstewards who did this!

spaximus

4,360 posts

274 months

Saturday 27th December 2003
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As others have said my condolances to the families of the policeman. There is no chance of police being armed as a norm in the near future for the very reasons some have said, ie when they are armed I will carry a gun, this is a truth with many criminals. At the moment the majority of criminals would not carrry a gun because they can still have a good chance of evading capture but if they are to be shot then they will carry guns routinly.
The real problem is the police have lost the support of a large part of the community as they are seen as more interested in speeding then catching crooks. Time after time on this site we see examples of the public being made into villans by protecting themselves where the police failed to protect them, we see in Humberside the police cannot chase people above a certain speed which basically says drive this fast and you are free to go.
We need polotictians to start to listen to the problems and act with strength, if some in the public cannot stomach the death penalty them make life mean life as it was supposed to when it was introduced, harsh custodial sentances for certain crimes with no parole but extendable for bad behaviour inside. Until crime does not pay we will see increased criminality in the population. It is not the fault of the officers on the ground it is the cheif constables who carry out the biddings of the poloticians both goverment and local, from cops I have spoken with they are just as fed up as we are with having their hands tied in paperwork and political correctness. Let them do their jobs, ie catch criminals and they will win back public support overnight, jail more criminals and sack a lot of the scocial workers who pander to those in jail and things will improve. You only have to look at Robocop in the Northeast, zero tolerance won the support of the population and jailed scum but set him at odds with the established order of the justice system, who would you rather support.
Lets hope the killers in Leeds don't go to North Wales as the only thing they will fear there is a speeding ticket.

deltaf

6,806 posts

274 months

Saturday 27th December 2003
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Jim'schim said:

deltaf said:
Says something for not only the cops being armed, but also civvies too.
Compulsory training and exams would also help to stop these scum from doing as they please.
Would you risk taking on a possible armed civvie?
Nope. Would you risk taking on an unarmed civvie? Certainly!



Indeed, imagine a country with armed police, and where the civillians have the "right to bear arms" I mean, there would be no gun crime would there. I'm surprised that no country is like that


You carry on playing the part of the helpless victim all you want. Some of us dont believe in being passive and allowing these slime to do what they please to us....Tony Martin anyone?

Roadrage

603 posts

265 months

Saturday 27th December 2003
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spaximus said:
As others have said my condolances to the families of the policeman. There is no chance of police being armed as a norm in the near future for the very reasons some have said, ie when they are armed I will carry a gun, this is a truth with many criminals. At the moment the majority of criminals would not carrry a gun because they can still have a good chance of evading capture but if they are to be shot then they will carry guns routinly.
The real problem is the police have lost the support of a large part of the community as they are seen as more interested in speeding then catching crooks. Time after time on this site we see examples of the public being made into villans by protecting themselves where the police failed to protect them, we see in Humberside the police cannot chase people above a certain speed which basically says drive this fast and you are free to go.
We need polotictians to start to listen to the problems and act with strength, if some in the public cannot stomach the death penalty them make life mean life as it was supposed to when it was introduced, harsh custodial sentances for certain crimes with no parole but extendable for bad behaviour inside. Until crime does not pay we will see increased criminality in the population. It is not the fault of the officers on the ground it is the cheif constables who carry out the biddings of the poloticians both goverment and local, from cops I have spoken with they are just as fed up as we are with having their hands tied in paperwork and political correctness. Let them do their jobs, ie catch criminals and they will win back public support overnight, jail more criminals and sack a lot of the scocial workers who pander to those in jail and things will improve. You only have to look at Robocop in the Northeast, zero tolerance won the support of the population and jailed scum but set him at odds with the established order of the justice system, who would you rather support.
Lets hope the killers in Leeds don't go to North Wales as the only thing they will fear there is a speeding ticket.



your argment are totaly floored

the death penalty dont work thats been proved.
there all way to many ups

without even going into the rights and wroungs of it.

if life means life then theres more to lose.

so may as well shot to kill. the longer someone going to get locked up for the more they will do to escape.

police have lost support because many are now smart enotght to understand that there to

control and repress the average man on the street not to protect.


they only way to stop crime is to end poverty and hoplessness.

and stop a few scum at the top having everything.
and the average man having FUCK ALL.

Humberside the police cannot chase people above a certain speed

DAME GOOD IDEAR a chase will nine out of 10 time end up in a nasty acident.

with someone incent being injored or killed.

offten for nothing more that a kid nicking a car.

is a car worth all them lifes ayear.
I think not.


>> Edited by Roadrage on Saturday 27th December 10:44