Speeding Point Removal

[wik]

I've got some points that expire this year at the 3 year mark. I think I still have to wait another year to get them removed form my licence.

Do you have to actually have them physically removed ?

Is there any harm leaving them written on the licence when they are dated ?

I've got an old fashioned green licence. Will they make me have a photo licence when I ask for the points to be taken off ?

[Mr Miagi]

Yeah - I think it is 3 years.

I have just had a paper licence changed to a photo one and they automatically took them off - 'cos you get a new paper one aswell.

Although 2 days later I got flashed again! Waiting for defaced licence to come back.

[Dwight VanDriver]

Points lose their effect after 3 years BUT remain on your Licence for 4 years after which you have to write to DVLA to have them removed.

See
www.dvla.gov.uk/drivers/endorsem.htm

DVD

>> Edited by Dwight VanDriver on Thursday 8th January 13:39

[knowley]

I believe...

Points count against you for 3 years.
You can apply to have points removed 4 years after the offence.
Insurance companies are allowed to ask for points/convictions within the last 5 years.
And yes you will have to apply for a photocard licence if you require ANY change to your current licence, that includes moving house.

[DennisTheMenace]

£18 for them to remove the things that they can stay on there

[wik]

"18 for them to remove the things that they can stay on there "

Thats what I was thinking. Would it actually matter that my licence has points written on it when its dated and clearly shows they've expired ?

I assume they are automatically removed form teh DVLA system after 4 years ?

[DennisTheMenace]

wik said:

"18 for them to remove the things that they can stay on there " Thats what I was thinking. Would it actually matter that my licence has points written on it when its dated and clearly shows they've expired ? I assume they are automatically removed form teh DVLA system after 4 years ?

Im going to wait untill the green bits stocked solid with points then send it back ,

it dosent harm your license leaving them on there so dont worry about it , and it will save you £18 that you can put towards that next speeding fine

[mudster]

Yes you have to pay to remove the points, but if you change address they take them off free. You can always move again back to your previous address after a short period.
You will have to pay for a card type licence though.

[onedsla]

Although I hate the perceptions - I was on a Peugeot sponcored safari day and when I went to collect my 307SW I got a 'tut tut' about the points I got in 1998. they were being sarcastic but it's still a bit annoying being considered a criminal!!!

[gh0st]

Whe I changed my address, i sent my license off for the change (which is free) and when i got it back 3 points that had expired had been taken off!

If you want to avoid paying any more money, change your address to youtr mums house, then change it back a month later.

All it will cost you is time and postage.

[bobthebench]

Points do still make a difference after 3 years. We don't count them for DQ but they show you have previous convictions and will generally get a heavier penalty because of it, and usually more than £18 of a difference and an extra point. I would ALWAYS suggest that if you qualify, pay and get old points removed. That way when you next appear in court, you can say you have a clean licence, it was a temporary abberation, and you will get off that bit lighter.

[Dwight VanDriver]

But Bob does not DVLA send back DQ1 with ALL points listed which is examined by the Clerk?

DVD

[MilnerR]

If the points become invalid after 3 years and are removed after 4 years why do a lot of insurance companies ask if you have had any convictions in the last 5 years?

[onedsla]

"why do a lot of insurance companies ask if you have had any convictions in the last 5 years?"

This is for their driver risk assessment. In other words to justify loading your premium unfairly.

[MilnerR]

onedsla said:

"why do a lot of insurance companies ask if you have had any convictions in the last 5 years?" This is for their driver risk assessment. In other words to justify loading your premium unfairly.

Thought so......... barstwewards
Not that i've had any convictions in the past 5 years its just the principle.

[alans]

well my endorsement points were written in pencil, so I just rubbed them out

[5ltr-chim]

bobthebench said:

Points do still make a difference after 3 years. We don't count them for DQ but they show you have previous convictions and will generally get a heavier penalty because of it, and usually more than £18 of a difference and an extra point. I would ALWAYS suggest that if you qualify, pay and get old points removed. That way when you next appear in court, you can say you have a clean licence, it was a temporary abberation, and you will get off that bit lighter.

Bob - whilst I now this to be true Why when they're 4 or more years old do they read them out without mention of having expired and then penalise you heavier ?

[cazzo]

mudster said:

Yes you have to pay to remove the points, but if you change address they take them off free. You can always move again back to your previous address after a short period. You will have to pay for a card type licence though.

Years back I had expired points and moved house, when I got the licence updated they left the points on, when I phoned them they said that I would have to pay to remove them! and that this was a seperate issue