Speeding drivers 'should pay £5 extra to...
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Mrs Fish

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30,018 posts

279 months

Monday 12th January 2004
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ananova said:
Speeding drivers 'should pay £5 extra to victim fund'

The Home Secretary says motorists should pay a £5 surcharge on speeding tickets to help raise extra cash for crime victims. David Blunkett has floated the idea as part of a major shake-up of the way the Government funds victim support services.

Responsibility for paying criminal injuries compensation to people attacked while at work - including police, health workers and teachers - should be transferred to employers, said a consultation paper.

The existing Criminal Injuries Compensation Scheme (CICS) - which currently pays out £160 million a year - should also stop giving awards to train drivers who have suffered trauma from seeing someone commit suicide by jumping in front of their train, it said.

Under the proposals - first leaked last summer - speeding tickets would go up by £5 to help pay for a new Victims Fund.

More serious motoring offences such as uninsured driving and failure to give driver's details to police would carry a £10 surcharge. Parking fines would be exempt from the new levy.

Other on-the-spot fines, such as being drunk in public or making a hoax 999 call, would also carry the extra charge.

Criminals would also have to pay out, with a suggested £30 surcharge handed to every new prison inmate and everyone ordered to do a community service order, provided the sentencing judge agreed.

Offenders handed a fine would also have to pay extra to the fund - with today's consultation paper suggesting levies of £15 to £30 depending on the level of the fine.

All the money raised by the surcharges would go towards setting up schemes to help victims rather than being paid direct to individuals.

dontlift

9,396 posts

279 months

Monday 12th January 2004
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How about criminals being forced to pay compensation to their victims by confiscating assets to pay the victim rather than hitting on motorists for everything

Batty'BUG'Matty

12,268 posts

271 months

Monday 12th January 2004
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Heres a really funny idea...
..how bout the governments fat cats take a pay cut, and the money saved from these useless gas bags can be used for something useful?
or perhaps put police back into the uk rather than just automated cameras?
just my 2p..

The Wiz

5,875 posts

283 months

Monday 12th January 2004
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Note the bit about the money going not to individuals but to set up schemes ... more public sector jobs, advertised in the Guardian to be filled by New Labour sympathisers. Just what we need.

>> Edited by The Wiz on Tuesday 13th January 08:56

XM5ER

5,094 posts

269 months

Monday 12th January 2004
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"All the money raised by the surcharges would go towards setting up schemes to help victims rather than being paid direct to individuals."

Ahh! Another ruse by an ambitious Civil Servant to build an empire funded by that bottomless pit of money, the British motorist.

stackmonkey

5,083 posts

270 months

Monday 12th January 2004
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I have no objections to people convicted of a criminal offence being made to pay a surcharge to CICA, but why should the motorist fork out yet again? I'm also assuming that the new schemes are in addition to the existing fund that pays out to individuals?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

275 months

Monday 12th January 2004
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How bout we cancel NI and income cat, coporate tax and VAT.

Stick the motorist with it all. Once we've all ditched our cars by the side of the road and the country grinds to a halt road deaths should hit a new low.

Seems just as sensible to me. ba55tards

Dick Dastardly

8,325 posts

284 months

Monday 12th January 2004
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Blunkett's just jealous 'cos he never got to drive!

Wish these politicians would remember one simple fact - they were employed solely to make our lives easier.
How do they try to do this? Throw fines at everybody - W@nkers the lot!

stooz

3,005 posts

305 months

Monday 12th January 2004
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why hit the speede? they havent created any victims?

why not be more pro-0active at fining, and giving points to those involved in car accidents?

get in league with the insurers, so those taht make a claim, get a £5 increase in their next policy instead. since there the ones that cost the money..


another well thought out policy from the muppet farm

I hope conservative read this board for sensible ideas.., or why dont we just put up candidates for a "peoples party" its only £5k a seatm, and 200 seats will win it..

nonegreen

7,803 posts

291 months

Monday 12th January 2004
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So

Scrote beats up my Granny for 20 quid, he gets 2 extra social workers a shrink and 24 hr police protection from me

Little scum bag terrorises an entire nieghbourhood he can expect the same

Speeders have to pay into a fund.

I have a vision of Blunkett bendng to pat his dog and me with a white hot poker....

deltaf

6,806 posts

274 months

Monday 12th January 2004
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Another "££££££-TAX-££££££". Oh my! How original of him.
Does he think we're all as blind as he is?
That we dont see what he's up to?
Wont affect me anyway cos before too much longer ill be outa britain permanently, and i wont care if it sinks in the crap of its own making.
Had it up to here with em.(points to neck..)

wedg1e

27,002 posts

286 months

Monday 12th January 2004
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Right: quick head count. How many of us will be voting this bunch of morons in AGAIN...?

Not I for one (though I had as little as possible to do with them getting in the first time: I voted SDLP )

mondeoman

11,430 posts

287 months

Monday 12th January 2004
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Not me fer sure

But this is actually old news (sorry Mrs Fish). Wrote to me MP a few months back about it and got some nuLabia trollop back for me troubles - I'll see if I can dig up the Gov'mt reply....

swilly

9,699 posts

295 months

Monday 12th January 2004
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......and a surcharge to be applied to those that dont pay fines

jim'schim

502 posts

273 months

Monday 12th January 2004
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[quote]
Criminals would also have to pay out, with a suggested £30 surcharge handed to every new prison inmate
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This is the best laugh of all now.

Magistrate "OK my fine young Scrote, I sentence you to 3 years in jail, and you'll pay a surcharge of £30"

Fine young Scrote " aye right, ya dozey auld git"

icamm

2,153 posts

281 months

Monday 12th January 2004
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More fines never to be paid by the scrotes and so will only penalise the normally law abiding. Why are parking tickets going to be exempt? They are supposed to cause loads of misery due to traffic hold ups etc.

Plus, as has been said, another government quango to waste must of the money paid into it.

I also don't agree with removing the money paid to train drivers when they witness a suicide. A friend of mine is a train driver and it's not very nice because you logically know there is nothing you can do but still "feel" you should have tried.

james_j

3,996 posts

276 months

Monday 12th January 2004
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Another angle on how to increase revenue, clothed somehow as if it's "doing good". Same old tricks, this lot really has to go.

skid

652 posts

278 months

Monday 12th January 2004
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So by doing the simple maths,

If a 'speeder'gets a £5 extra fine and a Lifer gets a £30 fine, then is 35 in a 30 offence equal to the 6th of a lifetime!?!?!

While I sympathise that victims never get enough this is classic mismanagement. Lets avoid the tough job and pick the easy target.

So we have a victim of a nasty crime. I know its crazy but lets try empowering the Police to do the job required and then strip said Scrot of benefits and assets to compansate the victim. If that isn't enough then he spends extra time in clinck working crap jobs on minimum wage until the compensation is paid!

Vote me for Prime Minister!

pbrettle

3,280 posts

304 months

Monday 12th January 2004
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These compensation schemes never work. On the rare occassion they do, its good, but in the majority of cases it is just another thing that someone fails to pay - even adding it on to an existing fine doesnt mean that they will actually pay it....

Sort out the existing compensation scheme and get money from the victims of rape, burglary, mugging etc right and then work out who else to charge later.... putting it on speeders does add or do anything to help anyone - either the victim or the perp....

And anyway - who is the victim when someone gets caught doing 80 on the M4 at 1:00am with no other cars for miles????? Makes a mockery of the compensation system and fools of anyone involved in the Criminal justice system..

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

276 months

Monday 12th January 2004
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Just when I think they can't go any further, they suddenly magic up another whiff of inane gas.

Any bets on a window tax...............?