Too good to be true? - London Cameras relocated
Too good to be true? - London Cameras relocated
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Steve_T

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6,356 posts

293 months

skittle

312 posts

282 months

Wednesday 14th January 2004
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This raises several interesting questions:

1) If they move the cameras, according to their spin, surely fatal accidents will occur at this location

2) All cameras, at some point, will be relocated beacuse they do save lives don't they.

3) Fatal accidents occur randomly which cannot be mitigated through the use of camera's

or they could just be moving them coz they dont raise enough cash anymore

Peter Ward

2,097 posts

277 months

Wednesday 14th January 2004
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Why would they keep secret the locations where the cameras are being taken away? This seems incredibly childish.

Now if London has spare cameras it can sell them on to other counties where they need them. This will reduce the cost of each camera below the £100k/year and allow Partnerships to contribute more to the Treasury. Everyone wins....

PS. I presume there's some media spin here about "If there have been fewer than four serious injuries or fatal accidents in the past three years near the site of a camera, the partnership is banned from taking any of the money the device makes through fines"? Otherwise there's another interesting loophole to investigate, assuming the Partnerships publish the information, of course. And if this is really the case, what would be the situation of someone prosecuted for speeding by one of the "London 80" cameras between now and April?

Plotloss

67,280 posts

291 months

Wednesday 14th January 2004
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So they'll be taking the 6 between J5 and J1 of the M4 away then will they?

I travel on that road everyday and have yet to see an accident anywhere near one of those sodding cameras...

deltaf

6,806 posts

274 months

Wednesday 14th January 2004
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So at least 80 of em are illegal installations...and yet they still used them to people over. A disgrace!
I wont be happy till they scrap the bastard lot of em.

james_j

3,996 posts

276 months

Wednesday 14th January 2004
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The move implies that the authorities are beginning to see sense.

But, of course they're not.

The cameras they are removing are not catching anyone.

The other (majority of) cameras are not contributing to road safety (as is the case with any speed camera), but they are getting more revenue. I think I can work out their motives.

d-man

1,019 posts

266 months

Wednesday 14th January 2004
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Evening Standard said:

A survey of the 400 cameras in Greater London revealed that 80 are sited on roads where speeding and accident rates are so low that their presence cannot be justified.


(my emphasis)

So this says they'll remove the cameras where nobody speeds and there are no accidents. That just leaves the cameras where people DO speed and there are no accidents to raise them cash then.

Surely they should be removing all the cameras where there are no accidents, not just the ones that don't make money?

>> Edited by d-man on Wednesday 14th January 16:28

xxplod

2,269 posts

265 months

Wednesday 14th January 2004
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I am told, by someone who knows, that of all the cameras in central London, only around 6 are live at any one time. I feel this is true. I used to work in the capital, and the nature of work meant I set off a heck of a lot of cameras. Only ever got 2 NIPs.