Jury Summons
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GTIR

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24,741 posts

295 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Did a search but couldn't find nuffink. (there's a surprise)

Much that would like to do my bit I just cannot justify taking any time off from work. I am a sole trader and take bookings and give quotes by phone and also sort drivers out. My phone is glued to my ear!
It's a new business and if I can't answer the phone I am screwed, don't have anyone else to run it while I'm off (I have nor had a holiday for two years)

Has anyone had any experience in getting an permanant excusal?

Help! smile

N Dentressangle

3,453 posts

251 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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I did jury service a few weeks ago. Have a look at this document:

http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/courtfinder/for...

especially paragraph 11:

11. Jurors may be excused for valid business reasons. Applications of this type should, however, be looked at closely and granted only if there would be unusual hardship. A small business is an example of a case where such hardship might be suffered, although each case must be considered on its individual merits.

Sounds to me like you qualify. Get in touch with them and see what they say. Even if they won't excuse you at the moment, you might be able to get it deferred.

HTH

GTIR

Original Poster:

24,741 posts

295 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Thanks

you're not the Norbert D are you!

Do you have a fan club like ES? smile

RacerMDR

5,582 posts

239 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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what happens if you just say No, you are too busy?

as I would if they ever call me up.

I don't see why I should have to waste my time doing this!

davidjpowell

18,690 posts

213 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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RacerMDR said:
what happens if you just say No, you are too busy?

as I would if they ever call me up.

I don't see why I should have to waste my time doing this!
I don't think that's an option! Sadly demonstrative with what is wrong in the UK.

Jasandjules

72,590 posts

258 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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RacerMDR said:
what happens if you just say No, you are too busy?

as I would if they ever call me up.

I don't see why I should have to waste my time doing this!
What happens is a Police officer turns up to collect you.......... They don't take that sort of thing well, as a rule..

eltax91

10,757 posts

235 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Are you randomly chosen for this? Or culd i put myself on a list of volunteers? Always wanted to experience this.

Libertine

3,997 posts

205 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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eltax91 said:
Are you randomly chosen for this? Or culd i put myself on a list of volunteers? Always wanted to experience this.
Maybe you could do some sort of deal with the OP? laugh

GTIR

Original Poster:

24,741 posts

295 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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It states;
"You have been summonsed for jury service. Your name was randomly selected from the electorial register"









(unless your eltax91)

daveenty

2,385 posts

239 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Been asked to do it twice now. (over a period of several years)

Got away both times as, like yourself, I run my own business and struggle without being able to be in contact.

They wrote back to me quite quickly, telling me that due to the circumstances they'd excuse me this time.

Did the same on the second one and got the same answer back. *This time* seems to be the standard get-out clause as people are chosen at random. (as stated above)

Just send the form back explaining your problem and you should be OK. (Mail strike permitting of course)

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

217 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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I've only been called once, and was excused as I'd served within a Police force within the last "X" years.

I now too run a small business, and although I may find it interesting, I wouldn't have time at the moment either.

Do you really "have" to do it ?, I'd suggest that if someone doesn't want to, and is forced, they wouldn't make a very good juror

r129sl

9,518 posts

232 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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No doubt you all manage to find time to go on holiday. I note you find plenty of time to post on here.

The country is going down the toilet because you're all too busy to do your civic duty.

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

217 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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r129sl said:
No doubt you all manage to find time to go on holiday. I note you find plenty of time to post on here.

The country is going down the toilet because you're all too busy to do your civic duty.
Yes I do find time to go on holiday, I've had four days is scotland this year, you begrudge me that ?

If somebody doesn't want to do jury service, then they don't want to, simple as that.

As I've never done this service, who pays you ?, or are you expected to lose money as well ?

I've had my time of following orders, now I'm free, or sort of !

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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For those who really can't manage it they seem to be sympathetic, but if you're asked and you can manage it, it's well worth doing.

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

217 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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GreenV8S said:
For those who really can't manage it they seem to be sympathetic, but if you're asked and you can manage it, it's well worth doing.
I'm sure you're correct, I've done plenty of "civic duty" in my time, and enjoyed nearly every minute of it.

But

I'll do it when I want to/have the time to, thankyou, sort of thing .

Tanguero

4,535 posts

230 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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To all the nay-sayers;

If it came to your trial, would you not prefer it that the jury that tried you was composed of your peers rather than the chavs who could be bothered to take a few days off collecting benefits to serve on your jury?

If you arent prepared to do jury duty (without good excuse) you don't deserve the right to trial by jury.

SmoothCriminal

5,939 posts

228 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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If you want to get out of it i'd say best bet is to try now before you attend court because when I went the judge would only excuse people if they had a booked and paid for holiday in the time the trial was expected to last.
Quite a few people tried the "My jobs too important" and "I'm self employed" but the judge was having none of it and to top it all off it lasted 3 months.

GTIR

Original Poster:

24,741 posts

295 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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I would like to it but I'm not prepared to risk losing contracts or pissing my customers off. it's been two and half years of commitment and I'm not going to be in the best frame of mind while my phone goes unanswered and jobs go elswhere.

If you ran your own business you would do the same.

fastcarl

254 posts

249 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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iv'e heard a tale that when the usher or whoever it is that swears you in, the first time he speeks to you direct ,reply in a loud voice,can you repeat that please i'm hard of hearing, he tries again and you repead again even louder this time,

you'll soon be on your way, its got to be worth a punt,lol


carl

elanfan

5,527 posts

256 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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Why is it that in 34 years of adult life 29 years as a homeowner that I've never been called even once. Have to say in my earlier years I would not have relished the thought but now quite fancy a couple of weeks.

Maybe it's my shifty look....