Speed camera protestor jailed
Speed camera protestor jailed
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44 posts

261 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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Speed camera protestor jailed

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/derbyshire/3397639.stm

Ernie Harbon refused to pay the £400 fine
A Derbyshire driver who said he would rather go to prison than pay a fine from a speed camera has been jailed for two weeks.
Ernie Harbon, 62, says he is protesting about what he claims is the use of the cameras to raise money.

Mr Harbon, from South Normanton, was caught speeding by a mobile camera in Codnor last year.

On Tuesday he was sent to prison for two weeks after again refusing to pay the £400 fine.

Highway Code

Mr Harbon was pictured driving at 38mph in a 30mph zone but claimed the limit was not clearly marked.

The police and Derbyshire Safety Camera Partnership have denied using the cameras as a device to generate revenue.

They also pointed out that it is clearly spelled out in the Highway Code that areas with street lights are always 30 mph zones.

Mr Harbon is expected to spend at least a week in Leicester Prison.




zoomer

35,829 posts

289 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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We should ALL write to him, and let him know he his a fookin HERO.



bigtone

1,211 posts

302 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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WHAT!!!!! Unbeleivable.....

How the hell was it a £400 fine for 8mph over I wonder...

icamm

2,153 posts

278 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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bigtone said:
WHAT!!!!! Unbeleivable.....

How the hell was it a £400 fine for 8mph over I wonder...
No doubt accumulated because he went to court and pleaded not guilty. Then refused to defend himself properly and just said something about refusing to aknowledge the validity of the device. You tend to get bigger fines if you do this and are found guilty.

flooritforever

861 posts

261 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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bigtone said:
WHAT!!!!! Unbeleivable.....

How the hell was it a £400 fine for 8mph over I wonder...


Probably cos he had the nerve to challenge the scamera partnership and tell people the truth about them: nothing but quangos set up to make money for the government.

PetrolTed

34,459 posts

321 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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[devils advocate mode]
Not knowing the bit of road, why is he a 'hero'
[/devils]

knowley

145 posts

296 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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flooritforever said:

nothing but quangos set up to make money for the government.


I saw a VERY interesting docu. on quangos before Xmas. The Convers. were critised for having too many and letting the country be run by unvoted people. Labour (as with all things) promised to rectify this.

What have labour done to quangos so far? Close down all the ones run by convservative people, set up replacements (in some cases a 2 for 1 replacement), and guess what? All the Labour MPs who didnt get their area are now incharge of a quango.

So now we have more quangos than ever... all being run by labour people who the country voted AGAINST in elections. Some of these MPs who didnt get a seat are now incharge of £billions tax payers money whilst they are incharge of these Quangos. Some of them are incharge so many different quangos they have to work 120 hour weeks apparently... go figure?

...thats what I remember from the TV prog.

>> Edited by knowley on Thursday 15th January 15:48

Roadrage

603 posts

262 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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GREAT GUY I TAKE MY HAT OFF TO HIM.

he will only do 7 days anyway probly only five if his releace date is on a weekend.

if more pepole relized that you cam get f alll really for refusing to pay.

and had the balls to do the same.

The scammers would be ed.

It cost em far more than 400 quid to bang him up for the week.

it would be the end of the scammers.

>> Edited by Roadrage on Thursday 15th January 16:02

>> Edited by Roadrage on Thursday 15th January 16:06

apache

39,731 posts

302 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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Ok if your lifesyle can accept a criminal record

Roadrage

603 posts

262 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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apache said:
Ok if your lifesyle can accept a criminal record




you dont get a criminal record for non paymet, ether m8

you a civil prisoner, not a convited prisoner
diferent thing altogether.

another thing to remember.

so come on lads tell them, what hole to poke the ticket up

>> Edited by Roadrage on Thursday 15th January 16:10

Hughesie2

12,635 posts

300 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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knowley said:

So now we have more quangos than ever... all being run by labour people who the country voted AGAINST in elections. Some of these MPs who didnt get a seat are now incharge of £billions tax payers money whilst they are incharge of these Quangos. Some of them are incharge so many different quangos they have to work 120 hour weeks apparently... go figure?


Actually there are around 400/500 quango's, no one can actually give a precise number cos they dont actually know, this is down from 1500 in the conservative governments ruling.

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

262 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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Something is wrong in this report....How the hell do you bump up a 60 quid conditional offer to 400 quid at Court. Unless costs of CPS at say 300 notes has been included - very doubtful. More to it somewhere along the line.

Oh by the way roads with street lamps are not always 30 so they got that wrong too.

DVD

knowley

145 posts

296 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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Hughesie2 said:

Actually there are around 400/500 quango's, no one can actually give a precise number cos they dont actually know, this is down from 1500 in the conservative governments ruling.


Could have sworn the program said they were gettting worse, obivously wrong.. thanks for the correction

judas

6,189 posts

277 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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PetrolTed said:
[devils advocate mode]
Not knowing the bit of road, why is he a 'hero'
[/devils]

Hmmm, interesting point. And it was just up the road from me. Be interesting to find out...

Rob P

5,801 posts

282 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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judas said:

PetrolTed said:
[devils advocate mode]
Not knowing the bit of road, why is he a 'hero'
[/devils]


Hmmm, interesting point. And it was just up the road from me. Be interesting to find out...


I saw it on the local news yesterday. My honest opinion as a PH'er........is it was a blatent NSL road reduced to 30. It had a slight bend in it and a T-junction which had about 200m visibility each side. Surrounded by fields.....no houses to be seen.
The news report did say it was a £60 fine BTW

pbrettle

3,280 posts

301 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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PetrolTed said:
[devils advocate mode]
Not knowing the bit of road, why is he a 'hero'
[/devils]



I have to say also - it doesnt need to be clearly marked if the section of road has the relevant lamp posts at the relevant interval.... he should have re-read his highway code.....

Good that he took a stand. But I doubt that many other people would - It doesnt look good to have a criminal conviction (prison sentence) for employers etc....

blueyes

4,799 posts

270 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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Roadrage said:


you a civil prisoner, not a convited prisoner
diferent thing altogether.



Does that mean you won't get bu66ered in the shower then?

_Al_

5,618 posts

276 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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It's letter to the MP time again...

Trefor

14,690 posts

301 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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How about we club together and pay his fine for him. I'm up for it ... anyone local enough to get in touch with this guy?

62 years old, being sent to prison for something like that. Friggin' stupid system. Meanwhile GBHers were probably walking out of court all day long laughing (last time I sat outside a courtroom all day all I saw were scrotes with big grins walking free). They saved the real criminal to last (girlfriend allegedly running an orange light - ooo lock up your children).

Roadrage

603 posts

262 months

Thursday 15th January 2004
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blueyes said:

Roadrage said:


you a civil prisoner, not a convited prisoner
diferent thing altogether.




Does that mean you won't get bu66ered in the shower then?


been in a few times no one tryed yet.

did manage to knob the education bird a few times
she want that grate looking but she, was starting to look prity good after a few mouths inside