Getting Hold Of CCTV

[elster]

How do you go about getting hold of CCTV of yourself in a club?

I know the CCTV is covering the area. Just wondering how you go about getting hold of it.

[Dupont666]

elster said:

How do you go about getting hold of CCTV of yourself in a club?

I know the CCTV is covering the area. Just wondering how you go about getting hold of it.

Did you get a celeb in a compromising situation and want to use it as blackmail?

Or did you see a celeb cheating on someone and want to use as blackmail?

Or you going to maybe drop us a hint why?

[Mattygooner]

[Cat]"And here is me looking good in a club, actually, damn, i look better than good, i look great!"[Cat]

[Jasandjules]

A s7 subject access request made to the club, specify the date and the time you require the footage from and include a £10 cheque.

[elster]

Just someone grabbing hold of me and threatening me.

[Mattygooner]

elster said:

Just someone grabbing hold of me and threatening me.

Hes gone down for 18 months, what more do you want?

[Jonny671]

Surely you just get the Police involved?

They'll walk straight into the club and watch as much CCTV as they want.

[Mx_Stu]

Jonny671 said:

Surely you just get the Police involved?

They'll walk straight into the club and watch as much CCTV as they want.

If it exists... I worked at a club in my sixth form and uni days and it was quite amazing how quickly footage disappeared when the doormen managed to get themselves caught on camera doing something they shouldn't have been.

Edited by Mx_Stu on Monday 2nd November 11:56

[lawrence567]

Most clubs usually keep it for a week so i'd hurry up!
GEt the police involved otherwise they wont let you view it..

[HRG.]

I've got a template letter from Mark Thomas somewhere if you need it. PM me if Google doesn't uncover it.

[GreenDog]

Sounds like the time an ex's handbag went missing from under the table at the end of a night out and the only person who had been near it was a doorman. Surprisingly the very same doorman 'found' the handbag in the ladies minus £100 and a phone. Gues what, there was no CCTV footage covering that area and the manager started getting all arsey and threw us out despite us being very calm and reasonable.

I imagine few would be surprised at that story though.

[dave_s13]

Thom,

My sister has been up to her usual shenanigans again hasn't she

I used to work on the door in that bar and unless someone nearly died, which didn't happen in this case, you (she) would have to go to the five-O and take it from there. The club owner will just ignore you. I've not worked on there for over 2yrs though and have nothing to do with that sort of nonsense anymore. Plus which all the staff have changed so I couldn't do annything even if I thought it might help.

HRG's suggestion above might be a good idea though, if she can be arrised to follow it up.

Alternatively she could just find some new feckin mates!

[elster]

dave_s13 said:

Thom,

My sister has been up to her usual shenanigans again hasn't she

I used to work on the door in that bar and unless someone nearly died, which didn't happen in this case, you (she) would have to go to the five-O and take it from there. The club owner will just ignore you. I've not worked on there for over 2yrs though and have nothing to do with that sort of nonsense anymore. Plus which all the staff have changed so I couldn't do anything even if I thought it might help.

HRG's suggestion above might be a good idea though, if she can be arrised to follow it up.

Alternatively she could just find some new feckin mates!

Yeah, just didn't bother doing a "my mate" post.

Up to her what she does, most of her friends do seem to be a bit fked up to be honest.

Edited by elster on Monday 2nd November 23:23

[streaky]

Jasandjules said:

A s7 subject access request made to the club, specify the date and the time you require the footage from and include a £10 cheque.

Do not send £10 unless it's asked for. It's not a set fee, only a maximum. Many organisations (large and small) do not charge; the large ones because it costs them more than £10 to process the payment and the small ones because they don't know they can charge.

With CCTV it is highly unlikely that it will be disclosed to a private individual. It will (in all probability) contain images of others - "third parties" - whose permission would be required or whose images would need to be obfuscated before you could see the video. Either way, it's not going to happen.

Data Protection Act 1998 said:

(4) Where a data controller cannot comply with the request without disclosing information relating to another individual who can be identified from that information, he is not obliged to comply with the request unless-
(a) the other individual has consented to the disclosure of the information to the person making the request, or
(b) it is reasonable in all the circumstances to comply with the request without the consent of the other individual.

(6) In determining for the purposes of subsection (4)(b) whether it is reasonable in all the circumstances to comply with the request without the consent of the other individual concerned, regard shall be had, in particular, to—
(a) any duty of confidentiality owed to the other individual,
(b) any steps taken by the data controller with a view to seeking the consent of the other individual,
(c) whether the other individual is capable of giving consent, and
(d) any express refusal of consent by the other individual.

Streaky

[mrmr96]

+1 As there will be other people in the clip you'd need to get their permission too. Bit of a catch 22 without the film eh?

Call the Police if you want to, but don't bother trying to persue it yourself as you won't get anywhere but you will get a sore head.

[streaky]

mrmr96 said:

+1 As there will be other people in the clip you'd need to get their permission too. Bit of a catch 22 without the film eh?

It's the Data Controller's responsibility to get the necessary permissions from third parties, not the Data Subject making the request.

Another difficulty with CCTV is that, no deletion/modification/overwriting of data (i.e. the tape/disk) is permitted following receipt of a Data Subject Access Request except in the normal course of business. 40 days (the time allowed for responding to a DSAR) is sufficient for many CCTV images to have been overwritten ... especially if on tape.

Streaky

[Jasandjules]

streaky said:

Jasandjules said:

A s7 subject access request made to the club, specify the date and the time you require the footage from and include a £10 cheque.

Do not send £10 unless it's asked for. It's not a set fee, only a maximum. Many organisations (large and small) do not charge; the large ones because it costs them more than £10 to process the payment and the small ones because they don't know they can charge.

Agreed in principal, BUT a S7 is not complete unless payment has been tendered, therefore without the money no request has actually been made (though many controllers do not know this) and thus the 40 days to comply has not started. A cheque however gives them the opportunity to cash it if they wish to make a charge or not if they don't, either way the request is properly made.