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Mill Wheel

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6,149 posts

222 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Sadly, a Cumbria police officer is presently unaccounted for, after a bridge collapsed near Workington.
As you can see from the picture, police and emergency services are stretched by the conditions, and you really should avoid setting off to look until the waters subside, in case you unexpectedly become a casualty of the extreme conditions.

It looks like fun - but it isn't.

tenohfive

6,276 posts

208 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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I was just reading about that:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8369934.stm

Sitting here with my fingers crossed, hope he turns up safe and well soon. Judging by some of the footage being shown, the chances of that might not be so good though.

tenohfive

6,276 posts

208 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Oh st. A body has been found by the searchers.

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

214 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Poor bd, and anyone else that is missing.

As a Birmingham born lad, I never realised the power of floods until I moved to a City with a river running through it.

Mill Wheel

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6,149 posts

222 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8369934.stm

A delivery driver informed me that cars were still trying to cross the bridge despite warnings not to.

The missing officer was a roads policing unit officer with 20+ years service.


Thoughts to his family and especially his colleagues, who had to continue their work knowing he was missing.

FishFace

3,790 posts

234 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Quite. RIP.

Wacky Racer

41,020 posts

273 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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frown

Stubby Pete

2,488 posts

272 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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I really feel for the family of the guy, just doing his job trying ot help the General Public.

Condolences to family and friends.

Soren2

251 posts

221 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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RIP Bill. He was a gentle giant of a man, who will be sorely missed. He was one of the most dedicated officers I know, and he was out there actively protecting others' lives when he died.

My heart goes out to his wife and 4 kids.

ipsg.glf

1,590 posts

244 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Terrible news. RIP.

TheTardis

214 posts

216 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Condolences to family and friends.

davidjpowell

18,646 posts

210 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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My condolences to family and friends.

As a member of the driving public, it brings to home how the emergency services can and do put their life on the line in just doing their jobs on a daily basis, something which many us do not think about when moaning about other more mundane events.

Greendubber

14,964 posts

229 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Utterly tragic.


saaby93

32,038 posts

204 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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yup frown

Mill Wheel

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6,149 posts

222 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Imagine water over a foot deep - over every bit of your carpet. THAT is how much RAIN has fallen in 24 hours.

It could not soak in, as the ground was saturated already, so instead the water channelled into every single hollow and gully, until it joined up in rivers of huge volumes of FAST moving water.

That is what has taken EVERYBODY by surprise, and put such pressure on bridges etc.

Take a look at the power of the water in some of these pictures
http://picasaweb.google.com/topeengraver/NovemberF...

SVTRick

3,633 posts

221 months

Saturday 21st November 2009
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Very sad news indeed.

A father of four, my thoughts are with the family and those
people who have lost their homes.

I just hope the UK government will give some much needed assistance
to help those affected.







Edited by SVTRick on Saturday 21st November 00:55

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

243 months

Saturday 21st November 2009
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My employer's daughter recently joined the Police and did some of her training with the fallen officer. Very sad, but his actions may have saved some lives, so fortunately not totally in vain.

The Highway Man

7,294 posts

204 months

Saturday 21st November 2009
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From what I've heard, Bill stopped a double decker bus full of workers from driving over the bridge seconds before it collapsed. Undoubtedly his actions prevented dozens more fatalities.

oldsoak

5,618 posts

228 months

Saturday 21st November 2009
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Mill Wheel said:
Imagine water over a foot deep - over every bit of your carpet. THAT is how much RAIN has fallen in 24 hours.

It could not soak in, as the ground was saturated already, so instead the water channelled into every single hollow and gully, until it joined up in rivers of huge volumes of FAST moving water.

That is what has taken EVERYBODY by surprise, and put such pressure on bridges etc.

Take a look at the power of the water in some of these pictures
http://picasaweb.google.com/topeengraver/NovemberF...
I know...not nice is it?
We had it in 2007
Why didn't we learn from that incident and concentrate our efforts on building flood barriers and relief systems BEFORE the floods occurred elsewhere?
How many more lives are to be needlessly lost because we fail to read the writing on the wall?
I know we can't second guess Mother Nature, but we are going through a period of climate change and we must expect and prepare for these sorts of things, not wait until they happen before we act.
Sorry for the rant but having gone through this (although to a lesser extent than many I might add) I can empathise with what people are going through now in the North West.
Two years on and we still have roads and properties flooding every time we get heavy rain all because the drainage isn't kept clear or isn't of a sufficient bore to syphon the excess water off quickly enough...it's enough to make a Saint swear!
furious

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

243 months

Saturday 21st November 2009
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oldsoak said:
Mill Wheel said:
Imagine water over a foot deep - over every bit of your carpet. THAT is how much RAIN has fallen in 24 hours.

It could not soak in, as the ground was saturated already, so instead the water channelled into every single hollow and gully, until it joined up in rivers of huge volumes of FAST moving water.

That is what has taken EVERYBODY by surprise, and put such pressure on bridges etc.

Take a look at the power of the water in some of these pictures
http://picasaweb.google.com/topeengraver/NovemberF...
I know...not nice is it?
We had it in 2007
Why didn't we learn from that incident and concentrate our efforts on building flood barriers and relief systems BEFORE the floods occurred elsewhere?
How many more lives are to be needlessly lost because we fail to read the writing on the wall?
I know we can't second guess Mother Nature, but we are going through a period of climate change and we must expect and prepare for these sorts of things, not wait until they happen before we act.
Sorry for the rant but having gone through this (although to a lesser extent than many I might add) I can empathise with what people are going through now in the North West.
Two years on and we still have roads and properties flooding every time we get heavy rain all because the drainage isn't kept clear or isn't of a sufficient bore to syphon the excess water off quickly enough...it's enough to make a Saint swear!
furious
This flooding and that in 2007 are not the same and do not have similar remedies. The very short course and steep rivers and streams causing these problems cannot be fixed by a bit of dredging and improving the townside drainage.

You can help by building levees and making mechanical barriers at strategic points, but you have to balance the need against the negative points.

In the Lake District, aside from the strict National Park planning restrictions, the Environment Agency are there to veto against developments in flood risk areas. Unsurprisingly, some senior Government officials were on the phone to the Penrith office this very week, after a development they allowed in Keswick, against the advice of the Environment Agency, ended up several feet under water.

This country seems all too eager to find blame and 'learn lessons' when the reality is, these 'freak' conditions are just that and you can't plan and live your everyday life just to cater for occurences like this. It's part of life, and life shouldn't always be wrapped in cotton wool and sanitised into extinction.