14.9% Rise for the PLOD
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volvod5_dude

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352 posts

267 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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Just received my coucil tax demand this morning. West Mercia Police are haveing an extra 14.9% the greedy


I appreciate you're angry but please make your point constructively rather than aggressively.

How many times is 14.9% over the rate of inflation? About X 7 I reckon.

What's the rise in other area's. Be interested to know how everyone else is being shafted.

I know it's B'Lairs stealth tax but I just felt like a rant at the pigs. Also these Chief Cuntstables are latter day robber barons.

Volvod5_dude.

count duckula

1,324 posts

296 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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I agree with what you say about the police force, some indviual BIB are fine, but the whole system sucks and to heavily baised by idiots ( Brunstrope )


malc

CarZee

13,382 posts

289 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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They need thay extra money for diversity schemes. How else are they to recruit one legged micronesian lesbians?

Plotloss

67,280 posts

292 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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You pay for the cameras that inflict velocity tax.

Marvellous eh?

puggit

49,406 posts

270 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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Last years Thames Valley increase (in Reading anyway) was some obscene figure that I can't remember. Something like 70%?

Plotloss

67,280 posts

292 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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puggit said:
Last years Thames Valley increase (in Reading anyway) was some obscene figure that I can't remember. Something like 70%?


For one traffic car at night in a massive radius...

UIL9794

268 posts

270 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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Perhaps there finally making up for the lack of funds over the last ten years. If you look on the bill of have much go's to the council,police and fire you may be suprised the police and fire get a very bad deal.

Lee

D-Angle

4,468 posts

264 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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CarZee said:
...one legged micronesian lesbians...

Reminds me of a video I saw once...

Seriously though, you're right. Council tax should be abolished, we see nothing back in return for it. In fact that seems to be the case with tax in general these days.

trefor

14,714 posts

305 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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Obviously I don't blame the local nick for this, but yes I was astounded that last year the increase was something like 40% for Wycombe area (Thames Valley I guess). Now it's only a 40% increase on a small percentage of the council tax, but even so it is more than a little outrageous when people are not seeing the benefits of the extra funding going into the force.

I'm sure one of our resident officers will be along to comment soon ...

mel

10,168 posts

297 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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I hear they're getting a huge pay rise to cover their taste in Nobles and Yachts, not that their personal finances are any business of mine

CarZee

13,382 posts

289 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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This is the problem the police face - when people see these massive increases in council tax being attributed to the police (which they really do need for the government driven diversity schemes I joked about!), it's just another way that a wedge is driven between the police and the public as a bi-product of government revenue raising for purposes of social interference.

Never forget that this is another Gordon Brown stealth tax - it's not the fault of the frontline coppers.

CarZee

13,382 posts

289 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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mel said:
I hear they're getting a huge pay rise to cover their taste in Nobles and Yachts, not that their personal finances are any business of mine
They could alays supplement their income doing adverts for Regaine though

shnozz

29,853 posts

293 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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mel said:
I hear they're getting a huge pay rise to cover their taste in Nobles and Yachts, not that their personal finances are any business of mine


you are right THEIR PERSONAL FINANCES ARE NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS

its just public sector figures are published....

Plotloss

67,280 posts

292 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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CarZee said:

mel said:
I hear they're getting a huge pay rise to cover their taste in Nobles and Yachts, not that their personal finances are any business of mine

They could alays supplement their income doing adverts for Regaine though


Or indeed platform heels...

streaky

19,311 posts

271 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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D-Angle said:
... Council tax should be abolished, we see nothing back in return for it.
Oh, but you're wrong! You do see a lot in return for your Council Tax (and other taxes). You see more MANAGERS and more INDEX-LINKED PENSIONS ... for us, the poor (literally) tax-payers to subsidise. You see more ADVERTISEMENTS in the Grauniad for more MANAGERS (with INDEX-LINKED PENSIONS) in sinecures created by existing MANAGERS who have nothing else to do until they retire on their INDEX-LINKED PENSIONS.

Get the message?

Streaky

CarZee

13,382 posts

289 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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Why don't we just euthanise desk-bound public servants come retirement age? Right to appeal will be by business case and cost-benefit analyis.

Live by the sword, die by the sword, fkers!

WildCat

8,369 posts

265 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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And let us not forget how important the "Female Awareness Course" is for our dear friend in Wales!

(Which of course requires managers, more managers, who all must have index-linked pensions - of course!)

Little holidays abroad (to see how the "Female Awareness Course" compares to ours! - funded of course - by the increases taxation!

Then there is the "Speed Awareness Course" which in the case of North Wales will have nowt to do with speeding and more to do with dishing it out on prescription - paid for by the Tax increases!

And let us not forget that they have 4 days on and 4 days off - and if they work on their "rest" days to view scam footage - this is overtime at premium rate!

And let us not forget how chubby they are getting by prat@arsing around in talivans, and not legging it after crooks! So chubby in fact that one Force spent megabucks of OUR money on a cookery book (in laddish vernacular of mono-syllables) teaching them how to open a tin of beans!

No wonder they need a whopping increase!

james_j

3,996 posts

277 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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How else will Labour buy votes for the next general election?

tonyrec

3,984 posts

277 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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Pity it doesnt find its way down to the boys and girls on the streets

TripleS

4,294 posts

264 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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Last year our Council Tax (Whitby, North Yorkshire) rose by 17%, the previous rise was about 12% and the one before that was about 8.4%, all of which were greatly in excess of the general level of inflation and the income rises enjoyed by most people.

Last year North Yorkshire Police increased their charge by 76.1% and I understand they want about another 10% this time, although our Council Tax Bill has not yet arrived. Incidentally it is only within the past year or two that they have ceased calling it a COUNCIL TAX DEMAND, the cheeky blighters.

Of course it is not true that we get no benefit from our council tax payments, but in my view they spend money far too readily on things that we really do not need or want. The area of spending that most annoys me is the seemingly endless schemes for 'traffic calming' and minor alterations to the road system. Taken individually these are sometimes described as 'low cost measures' but as far as I can see they are also close to being zero benefit measures. I make no criticism of a properly engineered improvement to a troublesome junction for example, but all these other little jobs they mess about with add up to a considerable financial burden and they are not justified.

I imagine most of us support the objective of making improvements in services and public assets within reason, and certainly I have no wish to see anyone deprived of important basic services that they can not provide for themselves. I would share my last bean with anyone in genuine difficulty and in need of help, but I have had enough of this excessive and wholly unjustified growth of Council Tax.

Unless our Local Authority can convince me that they truly need another large increase in Council Tax I am proposing to pay the same (£1901.55) as we paid last year plus 3% for inflation, and that will be it.
For the past few years we have been accustomed to paying in four instalments. This next time they can have £1958.60 in one lump sum on 1 April and they will have to learn to live with it, just as the rest of us have to live within our means.

If they consider that to be inadequate, they will simply have to go and talk to Gordon Brown. After all, he has got plenty of our money already.

Best regards all.
Dave.