mobile phone law.......what a pathetic joke!
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so,any police on here want to honestly say they are activly stopping these cretins that drive whilst texting/searching for numbers/making calls as i havnt seen a single person being pulled over for the offence even though i have seen police who have passed these people and just kept on going even though the person on the phone was driving like a c**t.
if you have then how many have you done and what were their excuses for using the phone....also if you did stop them then i know you arent in the essex police force as these mobile-using cretins are all over the manor.
i guess the powers that be believe the e.s.c.p can solve all of lifes problems when infact they are little more than a dose of thrush! (irritating c***'s)
if you have then how many have you done and what were their excuses for using the phone....also if you did stop them then i know you arent in the essex police force as these mobile-using cretins are all over the manor.
i guess the powers that be believe the e.s.c.p can solve all of lifes problems when infact they are little more than a dose of thrush! (irritating c***'s)
Plotloss said:
Police Disco on the M4 in rush hour the other day.
55mph in the middle lane, no traffic in Lane 1.
Wondered why he was going so slowly.
Yep, on the phone or some other device that needs holding to the side of the head.
Respect? Pah.
I passed a driver instructor (without a learner) driving on the dual carriageway to bournemouth to Ringwood the other day and he was on his mobile the whole way!
pmanson said:
Police Disco on the M4 in rush hour the other day.
55mph in the middle lane, no traffic in Lane 1.
Wondered why he was going so slowly.
Yep, on the phone or some other device that needs holding to the side of the head.
Respect? Pah.
I passed a driver instructor (without a learner) driving on the dual carriageway to bournemouth to Ringwood the other day and he was on his mobile the whole way!
More frightening than both of those was the bus driver in central London the other day doing exactly the same thing
I have dished out loads of tickets for this offence. The No. 1 excuse is " My hands free has broken" closely followed by I was only holding it for a few seconds....yea really, come and watch the video of you all over the road.
Whilst I`m on the subject of memebers of the public and driving, I would like to thank the vast number of drivers on the M1 London, who despite having a fully marked Traffic car behind them, still manage to drive at least 20MPH over the limit in roadworks,tailgate and carry out a 3 point turn on a motorway in a roadwork section with the old bill watching.
I would also like to thank the rider of a stolen motorcycle who not content with being disqualified decided to crash into an unmarked traffic video car with my two mates in it....who are still laughing.
Anyway, I`ve had a marvellous week.
Whilst I`m on the subject of memebers of the public and driving, I would like to thank the vast number of drivers on the M1 London, who despite having a fully marked Traffic car behind them, still manage to drive at least 20MPH over the limit in roadworks,tailgate and carry out a 3 point turn on a motorway in a roadwork section with the old bill watching.
I would also like to thank the rider of a stolen motorcycle who not content with being disqualified decided to crash into an unmarked traffic video car with my two mates in it....who are still laughing.
Anyway, I`ve had a marvellous week.
'Will',
this is a serious question. Do police radios require you to pick up the 'handset'? Where does this put you in the context of the new mobile phone law? If you are riding one up, you don't have a colleague to perform this function for you. I have never seen a traf car with steering wheel mounted comms!
Thanks in advance.
this is a serious question. Do police radios require you to pick up the 'handset'? Where does this put you in the context of the new mobile phone law? If you are riding one up, you don't have a colleague to perform this function for you. I have never seen a traf car with steering wheel mounted comms!
Thanks in advance.
We can operate the main R/T set via a toggle switch on the steering column that can be left in the open postion,or click to speak.
As for small PR radios these can be operated via a small mike at the end of a lead, which requires the use of one hand. However these are exempt from the current regs and in traffic we nearly always have an operator who will carry out radio procedure.
As for small PR radios these can be operated via a small mike at the end of a lead, which requires the use of one hand. However these are exempt from the current regs and in traffic we nearly always have an operator who will carry out radio procedure.
will crash said:
However these are exempt from the current regs
Will
Thanks for your response. I appreciate that you guys don't make the rules, but I am uncertain how a police officer (even having gone though advanced driving training) can be 'driving with due care and attention' (i.e. the offence a normal motorist would face) whilst operating a one handed PTT device. This is not a dig, but a question! Thanks
Back on topic, the mobile laws here in Hungary are similar to the UK. Today I saw a green van driven by an a
e. He was travelling at about 70 kmh in a 50, overtook coming up to a blind hillcrest, where there is no overtaking signage and was chatting on a hand-held mobile phone.
I make that four charges:
Speeding
Failure to obey traffic signs
Using an hand-held mobile phone whilst driving
Dangerous driving (adding up the three above and noting the lack of visibility for the overtaking maneuver).
Of course there was no policeman around to stop him.
BTW he nearly drove off the road when completing his overtaking
e. He was travelling at about 70 kmh in a 50, overtook coming up to a blind hillcrest, where there is no overtaking signage and was chatting on a hand-held mobile phone. I make that four charges:
Speeding
Failure to obey traffic signs
Using an hand-held mobile phone whilst driving
Dangerous driving (adding up the three above and noting the lack of visibility for the overtaking maneuver).
Of course there was no policeman around to stop him.
BTW he nearly drove off the road when completing his overtaking
Fergus,
Mobile phone conversations are conversations that require both a physical and mental input from the driver. They normally are not very short in duration and take over as the primary function of the driver, whereas P/R traffic is short and concise. Police officers are taught accuarcy,brevity and speed for P/R traffic.
P/R`s are not held to the ear but fastened to a mike piece which is clipped to the uniform, to activate requires a short click on a button.
Mobile phones are usually held in the right hand, the head tilted to an angle and the left hand holding the steering wheel by members of the public..this is totally different to P/R`s.
In any event P/R`s are gradually being replaced by Mobile Data Terminals in cars which replace the need for radio traffic.
>> Edited by will crash on Saturday 20th March 16:43
Mobile phone conversations are conversations that require both a physical and mental input from the driver. They normally are not very short in duration and take over as the primary function of the driver, whereas P/R traffic is short and concise. Police officers are taught accuarcy,brevity and speed for P/R traffic.
P/R`s are not held to the ear but fastened to a mike piece which is clipped to the uniform, to activate requires a short click on a button.
Mobile phones are usually held in the right hand, the head tilted to an angle and the left hand holding the steering wheel by members of the public..this is totally different to P/R`s.
In any event P/R`s are gradually being replaced by Mobile Data Terminals in cars which replace the need for radio traffic.
>> Edited by will crash on Saturday 20th March 16:43
at least there are some of you guys out there catching these people out,its just a shame its not seeming to be done in other counties.it seems that everywhere i go to in essex i pass at least 5 or 6 drivers who's attention and driving 'skill'(ha!) is sorely lacking through either having a mobile attatched to their ears or writing out a bloody text message.....my journey to work on the 127 is only from the tesco's roundabout coming out of southend to pound lane,basildon,i work 5 nights a week and yet you hardly ever see traffic cops on it.
for example the last police badged vehicle i saw on the a127 was over a fortnight ago and it belonged to the british transport police......hardly trafpol....i wouldnt mind if i only used the 127 during dead hours but im on it during both the morning and the evening rush hours!.
>> Edited by cortinaman on Saturday 20th March 19:13
for example the last police badged vehicle i saw on the a127 was over a fortnight ago and it belonged to the british transport police......hardly trafpol....i wouldnt mind if i only used the 127 during dead hours but im on it during both the morning and the evening rush hours!.
>> Edited by cortinaman on Saturday 20th March 19:13
Surely the problem is with the driver and not the mobile phone. If you answer the mobile and have a quick swift convesation and then get on with the driving, then surely that's no more distracting than working the sat-nav, changing the radio station, adjust the heater, lighting a fag, biting you nail, eating a bar of choc, yawning, sneezing, coughing, dying for a pee or just having a long fart!
If one has to have both hands on wheel all the time and 110% concentration at all time just to drive along, without any spare capability to carry out any extra task safely, then one is not safe to be on the road in the first place.
It's just another rediculous law that tries to over-simplify a complex multifactorial problem, a bit like saying speed kills!
If one has to have both hands on wheel all the time and 110% concentration at all time just to drive along, without any spare capability to carry out any extra task safely, then one is not safe to be on the road in the first place.
It's just another rediculous law that tries to over-simplify a complex multifactorial problem, a bit like saying speed kills!
will crash said:No problem, I guess we members of the public do it because the posted speed restiction is usually ludicrously slow and 90% of the time there is no sign of anyone working there anyway. Rich...
Whilst I`m on the subject of memebers of the public and driving, I would like to thank the vast number of drivers on the M1 London, who despite having a fully marked Traffic car behind them, still manage to drive at least 20MPH over the limit in roadworks
RichB said:
Whilst I`m on the subject of memebers of the public and driving, I would like to thank the vast number of drivers on the M1 London, who despite having a fully marked Traffic car behind them, still manage to drive at least 20MPH over the limit in roadworks
No problem, I guess we members of the public do it because the posted speed restiction is usually ludicrously slow and 90% of the time there is no sign of anyone working there anyway. Rich...
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