Going through a red light.

[L100NYY]

One of my salesman at the car dealership where I work has been caught going through a red light in one of our demonstrators, any idea on his punishment?

[TonyOut]

Eyes gouged out with a burning poker??

[gh0st]

Probably fixed penalty. should be more.

[L100NYY]

It's very tempting, believe me! The annoying thing is that it is on a local stretch of road that has approx 10 speed cameras and traffic light cameras in a 5 mile stretch that EVERYBODY that lives or works around here knows. The phrase "stupid boy, Pike" sprung to mind.

[bletch]

Got done for this a couple of years ago code is TS10

Fine including costs was £100 and 3 Points

[Dwight VanDriver]

Fixed Penalty IIRC for failing to conform to Traffic Sign 40 quid (it may have gone up) plus 3 penalty points.

At Court 1000 notes fine (max), discretionary disq and 3 points.

DVD

[page3]

A question...

A few weeks ago I had to rush my Wife to casualty at 4am as she was suffering from chest/heart pains and it was quicker (and less wasteful on resources) than calling an ambulance.

Roads were totally empty and I jumped every red light there was.

Would I get done if I had been stopped?

[gh0st]

page3 said:

A question... A few weeks ago I had to rush my Wife to casualty at 4am as she was suffering from chest/heart pains and it was quicker (and less wasteful on resources) than calling an ambulance. Roads were totally empty and I jumped every red light there was. Would I get done if I had been stopped?

Morally, no you shouldnt be.

However in this cash-enforcement country of ours,

[malin]

gh0st said:

page3 said: A question... A few weeks ago I had to rush my Wife to casualty at 4am as she was suffering from chest/heart pains and it was quicker (and less wasteful on resources) than calling an ambulance. Roads were totally empty and I jumped every red light there was. Would I get done if I had been stopped? Morally, no you shouldnt be. However in this cash-enforcement country of ours,

As I got done for speeding up just to get out of the way for an emergency ambulance, yes.

Several red lights, if enough have cameras, means that you could be banned for one such journey.

Do it again (if you wife has another problem) and you could be imprisoned for driving while banned.

The law says drive at the speed limit, obey red lights. It is enforced without compassion for "safety reasons". Dial 999, 'cos a paramedic could be with you sooner than you could get to the hospital. You won't pay anything.

As my barrister said, the CPS is prosecuting all public-spiritedness out of us.

Another question:- You are stopped at a red light. An ambulance comes up behind you, blue lights and siren on. Every one coming in all directions stops and looks at you. Do you cross the red light?

At this point, you are supposed to know whether there is a red light camera and/or a policeman watching. The ambulance driver does not need to worry about such petty details.

[stackmonkey]

I believe thatifyou are ongenuine emergency and that the normal 999 services are not available (poss due to time / distance) then you can get away with speeding etc if you can argue in court that your vehicle was being used as an emergency vehicle. doesn't get you out of careless / dangerous driving charges, though.

No one hasto break the law in order to let an emergency vehicle pass. Can any of the resident Bib suggest what to do in the situation at traffic light described above? particularly if you know that there is a red light camera?

[tvradict]

I was running in convoy last wednesday round Glasgow, two of us, I was leading, we were loaded (weighing about 26tonne) as we approached a traffic light, just as i got to the line, it changed to amber, I got over and round the corner, the driver behind made what I would say is a sensible, safe descision, and proceeded through, his front wheels crossed the line on amber, but the rear wheels (being about 15 feet behind) crossed on red and he got flashed by a TLC.

Now this begs a question here.

Truck drivers are classed (by plod amongst other people) as being professional drivers, in my professional opinion, for him to have stopped would have posed a risk, not only to him and his lorry (chance of skidding etc) but also to any driver behind not realising how quickly he stopped.

But now at least I can tell him on tuesday what he'll get as a punishment for using the safety part of his brain

[malin]

stackmonkey said:

I believe that if you are on genuine emergency and that the normal 999 services are not available (poss due to time / distance) then you can get away with speeding etc if you can argue in court that your vehicle was being used as an emergency vehicle. doesn't get you out of careless / dangerous driving charges, though. No one has to break the law in order to let an emergency vehicle pass. Can any of the resident Bib suggest what to do in the situation at traffic light described above? particularly if you know that there is a red light camera?

I "got off" in the situation with the emergency ambulance. It only cost me £900 in legal fees. The CPS paid for a barrister who argued that I didn't have to speed, to try to make sure that I didn't get off that lightly. I don't know if you can have "other offences taken into consideration", or are you going to be dragged out of work for a day, write letters and pay the legal profession each time? I don't know if I could afford half a dozen of those for one 4 am run to A&E. I know I would get separate NIPs for each red light camera.