when ddoes 14 days start?
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Steve-B

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913 posts

304 months

Tuesday 13th April 2004
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happily moving along A5 Saturday afternoon coming home from Friday trackday at Anglesey ....

radar / laser detection alerts, east on Llangolen in Wales.

hear first one barely (earplugs in, drive Caterham)...LIFT off pedal as second & third alerts go off...

@#$%^& it, see $camera van hiding in ditch over verge.

since was completely rural road ='s 60mph..thinks was within 10% MAX over limit

so, does my 14 day squirm start from TIME OF INCIDENT or "opening BiB hours" today?

having never GOTTEN a NiP in 28 years of driving -- not happy.

>>> Edited by Steve-B on Tuesday 13th April 21:33

jeffreyarcher

675 posts

270 months

Tuesday 13th April 2004
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Day of the incident (today)?
So, you count the 14 days, not including today.
And, it has to be posted with the expectation of arriving by day 14 'in the normal course of post'.
Therefore, it must be posted by the 27th.
BTW, North Wales are known for 'imprecise' NIPs.
If you are 'misled' (Pope v Clark) by the vagueness of the NIP, you have a defence.
A road 4 miles long has been held to be too vague (Young v Day).

Steve-B

Original Poster:

913 posts

304 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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the incident happened on the 10th.

so date they should have posted = 11th

but post closed 11th and 12th, easter

so in my mind, 26th is latest one can come...

correct?

KITT

5,345 posts

263 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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Yup! Although if it's a camera van you'll normally hear from them within a few days. (I know this from personal experience and 3 mates who've also been done) so I'd stop worrying after the weekend

jeffreyarcher

675 posts

270 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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Steve-B said:
so in my mind, 26th is latest one can come...

I would say no; the 24th.
Day 14 is the 25th.
However, there has never been a post on Sundays; therefore delivery on a Sunday cannot be 'in the normmal course of post'.
Monday is too late. Therefore it must be Saturday.
Easter is irrelevent.

Steve-B

Original Poster:

913 posts

304 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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also there was no sign before the van, no BiB in flourescent jacket, no motorcycle/BiB in pursuit car on side of the road.

do i have a small amount of optimism then?

KITT

5,345 posts

263 months

Wednesday 14th April 2004
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Steve-B said:
also there was no sign before the van, no BiB in flourescent jacket, no motorcycle/BiB in pursuit car on side of the road.

do i have a small amount of optimism then?

Afraid not. The ones round my parts (Somerset) and the one's I've seen in S. Wales have never had any BIB present. They just sit in the vans and collect the money

If you haven't heard anything by Saturday's post then I'd say you'll be ok. I got mine in 4 days and mates have had them within a week too, so it seems common that their fairly efficient at handing out fines

Steve-B

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913 posts

304 months

Monday 3rd May 2004
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still nothing in the post, am i OK now or do i still need to and wait ?

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

266 months

Monday 3rd May 2004
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I would put my shirt on it Steve, unless of course you are not the Reg. Keeper or just acquired the vehicle on or about 13th April 2004.

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