A press release for brake discs
Discussion
car parts direct said:
Performance Brake Discs could save lives
Around 38,000 people are likely to be seriously injured or killed on British roads this year.
An estimated six percent of accidents will be caused due to excessive alcohol.
A further 10% will be down to driver tiredness. Government research has found that one-in-three of all serious accidents will be caused by a driver simply not being able to stop in time.
The Parliamentary advisor for road safety concluded that a pedestrian is twice as likely to be killed by a vehicle travelling at 35 miles per hour rather than 30mph at the time of impact. Speed and stopping distance is the most critical factor in reducing the number of deaths on the UK roads.
Improving the brake discs fitted to your vehicle could prevent an accident.
When driving at speed and sudden braking takes place, you can experience brake fade. Your vehicle simply will not stop as quickly as it should.
Brake fade occurs because the brake discs heat up. The hot surface of
the brake disc glazes the friction material of the brake pads. In wet driving conditions the brake pads can lift from the brake disc. Stopping your vehicle can take twice as long.
A European manufacturer has developed a new range of specially multi-drilled and grooved performance brake discs. It is claimed the drilling cools the brake disc quickly. Grooves in the disc reduce brake pad glazing and repel brake dust and moisture. The grooving increases brake grip - instantly.
Titanium in the disc provides added strength and durability to prevent brake disc warping – the main cause of brake judder. The manufacturers claim Rossini Brake Discs can improve stopping distance by as much as 40%.
Mark Cornwall of Car Parts Direct, the UK mail order distributor of the Rossini Performance Brake Discs said, "The technology is well proven. Virtually all race and rally cars now run on drilled and grooved performance brake discs. Not only do the Rossini Brake Discs provide excellent stopping power for safer driving – they look terrific too."
Rossini supplies drilled and grooved performance discs for a complete range of vehicles, including family saloons, performance cars, 4x4s, classic cars and competition vehicles. Prices start from around a £100 a pair.
Visit www.carparts-direct.co.uk or call Car Parts Direct on 0870 0110291.
What sensationalist nonsense.
thats relatively true isn't it? I mean brake fade does increase brake distance...
having said that, I didn't think brake fade came from one application like that, but from prolonged and frequent use (or at least fade that is noticable).
IMO this is potentially very dangerous - vehicles are set up with specific brakes which are exactly suited to the weight and application of the vehicle. Changing these can have quite drastic effects if done wrong can't it?
having said that, I didn't think brake fade came from one application like that, but from prolonged and frequent use (or at least fade that is noticable).
IMO this is potentially very dangerous - vehicles are set up with specific brakes which are exactly suited to the weight and application of the vehicle. Changing these can have quite drastic effects if done wrong can't it?
car parts direct said:
The manufacturers claim Rossini Brake Discs can improve stopping distance by as much as 40%.
Compared to a shagged out set of brakes from a 1973 Morris Marina with no brake fluid perhaps...
I'm not sure CPD are being sensationalist as such, merely spying a marketing opportunity of the back of the Governments propaganda. Still utter tosh though.
Nice advert to sell their brake discs anyway! 
I have grooved discs - think they are a bag of shite.... might just be the make however. Next set are going to be solid. If they are good enough for racers, good enough for me. Hopefullly they won;t warp so quickly either...
Its not necessarily what you have fitted, its the condition of what it is, thats important.
And rightly put, tyres contribute (as do the suspension compnents) to your brtaking distances also...
>> Edited by Buffalo on Tuesday 13th April 23:48
I have grooved discs - think they are a bag of shite.... might just be the make however. Next set are going to be solid. If they are good enough for racers, good enough for me. Hopefullly they won;t warp so quickly either...
Its not necessarily what you have fitted, its the condition of what it is, thats important.
And rightly put, tyres contribute (as do the suspension compnents) to your brtaking distances also...
>> Edited by Buffalo on Tuesday 13th April 23:48
car parts direct said:
Titanium in the disc provides added strength and durability to prevent brake disc warping – the main cause of brake judder.
What a load of cack. The main cause of brake judder is a build up of brake residue on the discs, generally caused by overheating the brakes or not bedding in discs/pads properly. Brake discs warping is a very rare phenomenon.
In any case extra 'strength' would not prevent warping as that would be caused by uneven temperature build up.
Is this a genuine ad? If so the advertising standards agency should be notified.
streaky said:
"Government research has found that one-in-three of all serious accidents will be caused by a driver simply not being able to stop in time."
Who believes "government research"? After all, it was "government research" that claimed Saddam could launch WMD in 45 minutes.
Streaky
And of those one in three accidents where the driver was not able to stop in time, I wonder how many were down to poor brakes rather than driving too fast for the conditions or just generaly not paying attention?
Errrr
The MOT does not stipulate that your brake discs must be any good. You can have discs worn down to a few mm & it will not fail the MOT.
Your discs may work on the brake test at 10mph but will overheat in a very short distance doing 70-40mph emergency stop, at which point you can suffer total brake fade.
I have written to the inspectorate about this exact subject, the conditions of vehicles on british roads driving legally is absolutley bloody disgraceful.
Performance discs may help but discs up to minimum stanadards would help millions of drivers who have no idea of what they are driving.
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read this correspondence Email to the Vehicle Inspectorate:
Dear Sirs
Re MOT pass with under size disc wear
So a vehicle can have brake discs that in an emergency / hill braking / towing scenario could potentially be wholly inadequate, causing overheating & brake fade, leading to boiled brake fluid & a total failure of the whole system?.
Who on earth is the person responsible for the decision not to include this item in the MOT, this is a absolutely monumental lapse of safety. Just how many vehicles across the UK are potentially effected? Was this decision made by someone with any degree of knowledge of auotomotive engineering & dynamics?.
I should hope that employees of the vehicle inspectorate were at least Automotive Engineers & if so how on earth can this rule have been passed.
If you can furnish me with the reasons & persons behind this decision, I would be very intersted in discussing the matter further. I also think this information should be made publicly available.
D****** *****
----- Original Message -----
From: Enquiries@via.gov.uk
To: XXXXXXX XXXXXXX
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:21 AM
Subject: MOT Query
Thank you for your e-mail.
Unfortunately there is not a minimum thickness requirement for brake discs
as part of the MOT, only that the disc is not excessively scored, pitted or
worn. You should also be aware that this judgement must be made without
removing the wheels or dismantling of any type. I would advise you to
contact your local Trading Standards office regarding the sale of the
vehicle if you feel that it was sold in a dangerous condition.
Regards,
*****
>> Edited by cptsideways on Wednesday 14th April 09:21
The MOT does not stipulate that your brake discs must be any good. You can have discs worn down to a few mm & it will not fail the MOT.
Your discs may work on the brake test at 10mph but will overheat in a very short distance doing 70-40mph emergency stop, at which point you can suffer total brake fade.
I have written to the inspectorate about this exact subject, the conditions of vehicles on british roads driving legally is absolutley bloody disgraceful.
Performance discs may help but discs up to minimum stanadards would help millions of drivers who have no idea of what they are driving.
*************************************************
read this correspondence Email to the Vehicle Inspectorate:
Dear Sirs
Re MOT pass with under size disc wear
So a vehicle can have brake discs that in an emergency / hill braking / towing scenario could potentially be wholly inadequate, causing overheating & brake fade, leading to boiled brake fluid & a total failure of the whole system?.
Who on earth is the person responsible for the decision not to include this item in the MOT, this is a absolutely monumental lapse of safety. Just how many vehicles across the UK are potentially effected? Was this decision made by someone with any degree of knowledge of auotomotive engineering & dynamics?.
I should hope that employees of the vehicle inspectorate were at least Automotive Engineers & if so how on earth can this rule have been passed.
If you can furnish me with the reasons & persons behind this decision, I would be very intersted in discussing the matter further. I also think this information should be made publicly available.
D****** *****
----- Original Message -----
From: Enquiries@via.gov.uk
To: XXXXXXX XXXXXXX
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:21 AM
Subject: MOT Query
Thank you for your e-mail.
Unfortunately there is not a minimum thickness requirement for brake discs
as part of the MOT, only that the disc is not excessively scored, pitted or
worn. You should also be aware that this judgement must be made without
removing the wheels or dismantling of any type. I would advise you to
contact your local Trading Standards office regarding the sale of the
vehicle if you feel that it was sold in a dangerous condition.
Regards,
*****
>> Edited by cptsideways on Wednesday 14th April 09:21
There is a specific Offence for Riding a Motorcylce or Driving a Car on the road when the brake discs are worn beyond their serviceable limit.....it is called Dangerous condition.
This can be dealt with either by a summons to attend Court or an Endorsable Fixed Penalty Ticket, and of course.....an Immediate Prohibition (PG9).
In reality, its a lot easier on the street to deal with a Motorcycle because the manufacturers stamp the min thickness in a readable place, otherwise we have to carry a book around with all the specifications if the wear is not immediately obvious.
Again, as we all know, this is not something that a Camera/Talivan would detect.
Edited because i couldnt spell.
>> Edited by tonyrec on Wednesday 14th April 09:32
This can be dealt with either by a summons to attend Court or an Endorsable Fixed Penalty Ticket, and of course.....an Immediate Prohibition (PG9).
In reality, its a lot easier on the street to deal with a Motorcycle because the manufacturers stamp the min thickness in a readable place, otherwise we have to carry a book around with all the specifications if the wear is not immediately obvious.
Again, as we all know, this is not something that a Camera/Talivan would detect.
Edited because i couldnt spell.
>> Edited by tonyrec on Wednesday 14th April 09:32
Two thoughts:
- Surely all accidents are due to someone not being able to stop in time
. After all, if noone was moving they couldn't have the accident 
.
- Sounds like the government is doing well. One third speed, one theird not stopping in time. The accident rate will soon be plummetting!
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