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safespeed

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2,983 posts

296 months

Tuesday 20th April 2004
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http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2805254

Speed Cameras Leave Brewery Boss Bitter

By Paul Watson, PA News

A brewery boss has named one of his ales Highway Robbery in a protest over speed cameras.

Dave Roberts, who has been caught twice by cameras, said the name reflected what many people thought about the controversial cameras being purely money-making gadgets.

The 38-year-old, who runs the independent Northumberland Brewery in Bedlington, said the new hand-pulled real ale was proving a hit with drinkers and his first batch sold out within a week.

It is now being sold across the North East, Scotland and the North West through the free houses he supplies.

The pump crest shows a speed camera dressed up as a highway robber, which he feels sums up the idea.

Mr Roberts said: ?Stagecoaches used to run from York to Edinburgh and highwaymen would rob them.

?Now you can get robbed and not even know about it until the letter comes through the post for £60.

?Both myself and my delivery driver have been caught and while I agree with speed cameras in built-up areas, it?s when they put them in places where traffic runs normally that I get annoyed.

?The vans are the main concern as people tend to slam the brakes on whenever they see a white van parked up and most of the time it is not even a camera van.

?People are really supportive of this beer and it?s selling out.

?We are brewing it week in and week out and it?s going really well.?

Ray King, project manager for the Northumbria Safety Camera Partnership, denied cameras were there to make money out of unsuspecting drivers.

?We don?t want to catch people out, we want to slow them down.

?The money goes to central government and we can only reclaim what is spent on camera enforcement and training and education initiatives.

?No money can be spent by the police and local authorities on anything other than that.?

He added that the siting of fixed cameras was determined by accident statistics over the years.

?Fixed cameras can only be sited where there has been at least four collisions in the past three years which have resulted in fatalities or serious injuries.?
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I've been talking with Dave Roberts, the brewery boss. Here's the logo:




And I have already sent out the following supporting Safe Speed PR:

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PR118: Real ale, real issues. It's Highway Robbery!

News: for immediate release

Northumberland Brewery have announced the availability of a new ale
called "Highway Robbery". This follows a couple of chance encounters
between the Dave Roberts, the brewery boss, and speed cameras.

Dave said: "This is my small protest against unnecessary and unwanted
road side mugging machines."

The pump crest shows a speed camera in Dick Turpin guise complete with
eye patch and twin pistols.

Paul Smith, founder of the Safe Speed road safety campaign said: "I
hope Dave's protest brings the real issues to a wider audience. It's
about time that the Government owned up to the fact that they have
destroyed the earlier excellent trends in UK road safety."

Paul continues: "It's great to see that the British spirit for light
hearted yet effective protest is alive and well and living in
Northumberland. We wish Dave Roberts and his team every success with
the new beer."

Dave said: "Stagecoaches used to run from York to Edinburgh and
highwaymen would rob them. Now you can get robbed and not even know
about it until the letter comes through the post demanding £60!"
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Nice one Dave!

Best Regards,
Paul Smith
Safe Speed
www.safespeed.org.uk

dazren

22,612 posts

283 months

Tuesday 20th April 2004
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Ted.

Can we get a barrel of this in for Pistonfest?

DAZ

m-five

12,020 posts

306 months

Tuesday 20th April 2004
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If they're charging full price for this ditchwater than that's highway robbery too - got to be over 5% for a nice real ale brew.

stackmonkey

5,083 posts

271 months

Tuesday 20th April 2004
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Presumably, for authenticity with scameras, this beer has a pleasant looking albeit constantly revolving label, and has an initial sweet bouquet that turns into a bitter aftertaste two weeks later and takes four years to get rid of the hangover!

barry sheene

1,524 posts

305 months

Tuesday 20th April 2004
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stackmonkey said:
Presumably, for authenticity with scameras, this beer has a pleasant looking albeit constantly revolving label, and has an initial sweet bouquet that turns into a bitter aftertaste two weeks later and takes four years to get rid of the hangover!




dcb

6,034 posts

287 months

Tuesday 20th April 2004
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m-five said:
If they're charging full price for this ditchwater than that's highway robbery too - got to be over 5% for a nice real ale brew.


Nonsense.

Real ale is a complex living product - lots of lovely real ales under 4%, never mind 5%.

Get down to your local CAMRA real ale festival sometime and give your taste buds a thrill.

m-five

12,020 posts

306 months

Wednesday 21st April 2004
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dcb said:

m-five said:
If they're charging full price for this ditchwater than that's highway robbery too - got to be over 5% for a nice real ale brew.



Nonsense.

Real ale is a complex living product - lots of lovely real ales under 4%, never mind 5%.

Get down to your local CAMRA real ale festival sometime and give your taste buds a thrill.



I do, and really enjoy it - can't wait for this year's Real Ale Festival in Liverpool (usually at the White Star), although some can be a bit bland and not all real ale is good ale (but even then usually much tastier than the big-names).

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

277 months

Wednesday 21st April 2004
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dcb said:

Nonsense.

Real ale is a complex living product - lots of lovely real ales under 4%, never mind 5%.

Get down to your local CAMRA real ale festival sometime and give your taste buds a thrill.


Real ale is drunk for the flavour, not to get hammered on. Perhaps I could suggest a couple of cans of Kestrel Super Strength m-five?

m-five

12,020 posts

306 months

Thursday 22nd April 2004
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But it's good if you can do both at the same time!

DustyC

12,820 posts

276 months

Thursday 22nd April 2004
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I thought this was gonna be some kinda of CAMRA joke but turns out its real!

RichB

55,180 posts

306 months

Thursday 22nd April 2004
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m-five said:
If they're charging full price for this ditchwater than that's highway robbery too - got to be over 5% for a nice real ale brew.

Don't normally rise to the bait and I assume you said this as a joke but it is a somewhat ignorant comment! My favourite, yes favourite bitter is Breakspear's Ordinary which at 3.4% you would presumably considerd to be too "sissy" to even bother washing your socks in Fact is that it has an excellent flavour and... you can drink a couple of pints and drive without any worries. Rich...

>> Edited by RichB on Thursday 22 April 15:12

Edt

5,220 posts

306 months

Thursday 22nd April 2004
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agreed.. it's a belting pint & doesnt leave your heads spinning.

Regards, Ed

unless you've just finished your 6th pint.. like last Friday evening.. ooh my head the next morning


RichB

55,180 posts

306 months

Thursday 22nd April 2004
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And I know... I owe you one! Rich...

p.s. thought I might have seen you on Tuesday at the Swan?

>> Edited by RichB on Thursday 22 April 16:57

m-five

12,020 posts

306 months

Thursday 22nd April 2004
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RichB said:

m-five said:
If they're charging full price for this ditchwater than that's highway robbery too - got to be over 5% for a nice real ale brew.


Don't normally rise to the bait and I assume you said this as a joke but it is a somewhat ignorant comment! My favourite, yes favourite bitter is Breakspear's Ordinary which at 3.4% you would presumably considerd to be too "sissy" to even bother washing your socks in Fact is that it has an excellent flavour and... you can drink a couple of pints and drive without any worries. Rich...

>> Edited by RichB on Thursday 22 April 15:12


It was, and hence the in the post, but most people seem to be smiley-blind!

RichB

55,180 posts

306 months

Thursday 22nd April 2004
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m-five said:

RichB said:
I assume you said this as a joke

It was, and hence the in the post, but most people seem to be smiley-blind!
Fair do's...

smashmonkey1984

76 posts

263 months

Thursday 22nd April 2004
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Hmmmmmmmmmm real ale. such good suppliers should be camera exempt in my view. Damn! now i'm gonna have to go down the off licence.

apache

39,731 posts

306 months

Friday 23rd April 2004
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That reminds me, I havn't been to the Queens Head in Newton for a Broadside for far too long, anyone up for it Sunday lunchtime?

Peter Ward

2,097 posts

278 months

Friday 23rd April 2004
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safespeed said:
....He added that the siting of fixed cameras was determined by accident statistics over the years. "Fixed cameras can only be sited where there has been at least four collisions in the past three years which have resulted in fatalities or serious injuries."...

But we know this isn't true, don't we? Cameras can now be put anywhere they like with impugnity since the government rule-change. Perhaps some scamera partnerships aren't aware? Or perhaps they would rather we weren't aware....

safespeed

Original Poster:

2,983 posts

296 months

Friday 23rd April 2004
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Peter Ward said:

safespeed said:
....He added that the siting of fixed cameras was determined by accident statistics over the years. "Fixed cameras can only be sited where there has been at least four collisions in the past three years which have resulted in fatalities or serious injuries."...


But we know this isn't true, don't we?


We do indeed. I didn't say it - I was quoting the Scotsman.

The Beeb have the beer story too btw:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/3642397.stm

Notice the name of the scamera spokesdrone? "Ray King".

So they are Ray King it in are they? (thanks to RD who pointed this out).

Best Regards,
Paul Smith
Safe Speed
www.safespeed.org.uk