Breathalyse Me Please
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Fly Fifer

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58 posts

263 months

Wednesday 28th April 2004
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Several years ago, not knowing whether or not she was over the limit to drive the morning after, my GF popped into the local police station and politely asked if she could partake in a breathalyser test.

The answer was a straight "No".

Would be interested to know from any bobbies on here how this is usually handled, if ever it happens, as well as anyone who has tried this.

NB. She walked to the police station and pls no "if she was in any doubt, she shouldn't drive" answers as that's not really the point.

Mon Ami Mate

6,589 posts

290 months

Wednesday 28th April 2004
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I tried this after a night out in Bath a few months ago. I was genuinely unsure whether I was over the limit or not so was on my way to the taxi rank when I spotted a Battenberg parked up. I asked very nicely but got a very icy response, suggesting, in no uncertain terms, that they had better things to do with their time.

DustyC

12,820 posts

276 months

Wednesday 28th April 2004
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Thats not a very good response by the bib but I realise they have a lot to do and no time allocated for this. But it is prevention.

Perhaps this should be available at local shops.

Sometimes the morning after one may feel fit to drive and in no doubt they are OK but yet a breath test may show otherwise.

trooper1212

9,457 posts

274 months

Wednesday 28th April 2004
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What about those ones you see in the gadget shops and on the counter of halfords, are they a good indication or would I be better breathing on a mate and seeing if they keel over?

The Wiz

5,875 posts

284 months

Wednesday 28th April 2004
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Mon Ami Mate said:
I tried this after a night out in Bath a few months ago. I was genuinely unsure whether I was over the limit or not so was on my way to the taxi rank when I spotted a Battenberg parked up. I asked very nicely but got a very icy response, suggesting, in no uncertain terms, that they had better things to do with their time.


Probably thought you were taking the piss.

mcflurry

9,184 posts

275 months

Wednesday 28th April 2004
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the gizmo ones are fine, but only to be used as a guide. If they show any alcohol the following morning then I walk....If clear then

WMHV70

13,251 posts

262 months

Wednesday 28th April 2004
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The reason we don't do breath tests is simple: if we test you and you're "under", it's possible the level of alcohol in your body is going up. If you then have a bump and/or get tested and are over the limit, there's issues of liability... ie we're in deep doo-doo for giving you the all clear. I wouldn't rely on anything available in shops. If you try to use one of these as a defence, you'll get nowhere, as they're not type approved. Most electronic breath kits used by Police have to be checked/calibrated about once a month. Think the shop will test yours for you every month?!

>> Edited by WMHV70 on Wednesday 28th April 17:32

lunarscope

2,901 posts

264 months

Wednesday 28th April 2004
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trooper1212 said:
What about those ones you see in the gadget shops and on the counter of halfords, are they a good indication or would I be better breathing on a mate and seeing if they keel over?

Until very recently they were actually illegal, FFS !

mel

10,168 posts

297 months

Wednesday 28th April 2004
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WMHV70 said:
Most electronic breath kits used by Police have to be checked/calibrated about once a month. Think the shop will test yours for you every month?!


True but the one I bought (costco about £15) has actually got a calibration feature which involves filling a little cap with red wine of a prescribed alcohol % and then going through a little routine. I've used it some mornings after a sesh when I've fealt really poo and been clear, other times when I've fealt ok (probably still p1ssed) its given high readings, surely as a guide they can't be a bad thing.

HiAsAKite

2,513 posts

269 months

Wednesday 28th April 2004
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Yep..I've got one too (got it in Sweden where they're common)... and at times I have been a lot lower than expected, and others my body has just stayed up there till late afternoon....

Hardcore2000

788 posts

293 months

Wednesday 28th April 2004
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its funny someone said the police do not have the time. i gaurantee if they saw you then walk to your car and get in and start to drive they would be all over you like flies on sh*t! they like easy targets no matter what anybody says

nspasser

88 posts

269 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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WMHV70 said:
The reason we don't do breath tests is simple: if we test you and you're "under", it's possible the level of alcohol in your body is going up. If you then have a bump and/or get tested and are over the limit, there's issues of liability... ie we're in deep doo-doo for giving you the all clear. I wouldn't rely on anything available in shops. If you try to use one of these as a defence, you'll get nowhere, as they're not type approved. Most electronic breath kits used by Police have to be checked/calibrated about once a month. Think the shop will test yours for you every month?!

>> Edited by WMHV70 on Wednesday 28th April 17:32

Alcohol level goin up? The following morning? I don't think so!!

DustyC

12,820 posts

276 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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nspasser said:

Alcohol level goin up? The following morning? I don't think so!!


Well, perhaps after 11am it might

DustyC

12,820 posts

276 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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mel said:

WMHV70 said:
Most electronic breath kits used by Police have to be checked/calibrated about once a month. Think the shop will test yours for you every month?!



True but the one I bought (costco about £15) has actually got a calibration feature which involves filling a little cap with red wine of a prescribed alcohol % and then going through a little routine. I've used it some mornings after a sesh when I've fealt really poo and been clear, other times when I've fealt ok (probably still p1ssed) its given high readings, surely as a guide they can't be a bad thing.


Where did you get that? It sounds really good.

mel

10,168 posts

297 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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DustyC said:

Where did you get that? It sounds really good.




mel said:

(costco about £15)



RTFP

>> Edited by mel on Thursday 29th April 08:12

DustyC

12,820 posts

276 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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thanks

ph_flyer

434 posts

272 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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WMHV70 said:
The reason we don't do breath tests is simple: if we test you and you're "under", it's possible the level of alcohol in your body is going up. If you then have a bump and/or get tested and are over the limit, there's issues of liability... ie we're in deep doo-doo for giving you the all clear.


Isn't that the same as being stopped whilst driving, getting the all-clear, carrying on your journey home and getting stopped again 20 minutes later? Only this time, you're over the limit. "But I tested negative only 20 minutes ago!" "Tough!"

jenkinsd

46 posts

266 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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A mate of mine did this after a night out in Norwich. We were coming out of a club and he wanted to drive back to London but was unsure as to whether he was over the limit.

He walked over to a conveniently parked constabulary vehicle and asked if they would do a test as he wanted to drive back to London. They asked when he last consumed alcahol (about an hour previously) and the lady cop said "we will have to use the cheap test if that's ok". He blew into the bag, was clear and off he drove to London.

At the time I thought he was mad, but BiB didn't seem to have a problem, in fact they were positively enthusiastic!

Mind you, just as well they didn't run any other tests

gone

6,649 posts

285 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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nspasser said:


Alcohol level goin up? The following morning? I don't think so!!


Oh no! Perhaps you have not stopped many people early in the morning then!

Fully agree with the reason about not doing so. The driver then has an RTA some minutes later and is tested and found to be over the limit. The Police then being culpable for knowing that person was affected by alcohol and not stopping them from driving before the RTA occurred.

The best answer to this would have been for her to walk to the taxi rank or bus station rather than the Police Station!

hammerwerfer

3,234 posts

262 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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Ahh, for the good old days. I can remember standing nest to a cop at a nightclub door and watching some drunken bugger trying to get the key in his car door. After a good bit of fumbling, he finally succeeded and drove off somewhat erratically.

The cop looked to me and said "It's a good thing he's driving, because he sure can't walk."