FAO: Resident Traffic BiB...
Discussion
Did a bit of silly thing over the weekend and was hoping someone on here would be able to give me their advice.
My road tax ran out this month, bought a new one before the current one expired, but shoved it in my wallet. Parked the car in town in Saturday night and as I was walking away remembered the tax disc as still there.
I then went back and left it in the dashboard. Came back the following day to see a FPN for not displaying a current license...
As it turned out, me closing the door must have blown the disc in the footwell as that was where it was laying.
Completely unintentional thing and a genuine mistake. The new disc clearly shows it was bought before the end of the month...
How would a letter stating the above go down? As I notice that the sticky wallet thing states that "no corresspondance be entered into"
Thanks in advance
Tuan
What do you mean by Fixed penalty?
Have you been given a ticket which requires you to send in money for the offence of 'No VEL'?
This isn't the way this offence is dealt with. I do not know of an FPT offence that would cover that.
Do you mean that a sticky docket was put on your car informing you that the car had been seen with no tax on it?
If your car was currently taxed, then do not worry unduly about it as DVLA records will show this when the enquiry reaches them.
You can be prosecuted for the offence of failing to display the disc, but that would be unusual. If you are summonsed then you need to write a letter to the court explaining what has happened and ask them to consider giving you an absolute dischatrge for the offence (That means a conviction without any punishment).
Have you been given a ticket which requires you to send in money for the offence of 'No VEL'?
This isn't the way this offence is dealt with. I do not know of an FPT offence that would cover that.
Do you mean that a sticky docket was put on your car informing you that the car had been seen with no tax on it?
If your car was currently taxed, then do not worry unduly about it as DVLA records will show this when the enquiry reaches them.
You can be prosecuted for the offence of failing to display the disc, but that would be unusual. If you are summonsed then you need to write a letter to the court explaining what has happened and ask them to consider giving you an absolute dischatrge for the offence (That means a conviction without any punishment).
gone said:
What do you mean by Fixed penalty?
Have you been given a ticket which requires you to send in money for the offence of 'No VEL'?
This isn't the way this offence is dealt with. I do not know of an FPT offence that would cover that.
Do you mean that a sticky docket was put on your car informing you that the car had been seen with no tax on it?
If your car was currently taxed, then do not worry unduly about it as DVLA records will show this when the enquiry reaches them.
You can be prosecuted for the offence of failing to display the disc, but that would be unusual. If you are summonsed then you need to write a letter to the court explaining what has happened and ask them to consider giving you an absolute dischatrge for the offence (That means a conviction without any punishment).
Sorry, I wasn't being very clear. It's a Police issued sticky docket (white, not yellow. With the Police sign on it) and the offence if failing to display a valid license.
The little ticket says that the fixed penalty for this offence is £60. I can pay it within 28 days or request a court hearing.
I suppose I did commit the offence of "failing to display" and that is what I was done for...
I hope this makes sense.
Tuan
I would suggest you write back to the issuing authority, outline what happened as you have stated, that the vehicle was Taxed, the offence was trivial and occurred as you outline and as a result of an accident. Ask that under the circumstances they would consider writing off the FPN. If they are unable to do so then a Court hearing is requested when you intend to plead Not Guilty.
Any sane FP Office will write off, providing no other offences disclosed, so as not to waste time and money in the pursuit of such a trivial offence, especially now when authorities have the means to instantly interrogate records to confirm whether or not a vehicle is taxed, which is their main concern.
If they don't go for it have your day in Court when you can explain rationally to the Magistrates personally what is outlined above.
Any sane Bench would not inflict a penny in fine and order an Absolute Discharge.
Christ any serving BiB's - this is scraping the barrel isn't it?
DVD
PS. RETAIN THE LICENCE CURRENT AT DATE OF OFFENCE to show at Court, if it come to that, proving one in Force and issued before date of FPN.
Any sane FP Office will write off, providing no other offences disclosed, so as not to waste time and money in the pursuit of such a trivial offence, especially now when authorities have the means to instantly interrogate records to confirm whether or not a vehicle is taxed, which is their main concern.
If they don't go for it have your day in Court when you can explain rationally to the Magistrates personally what is outlined above.
Any sane Bench would not inflict a penny in fine and order an Absolute Discharge.
Christ any serving BiB's - this is scraping the barrel isn't it?
DVD
PS. RETAIN THE LICENCE CURRENT AT DATE OF OFFENCE to show at Court, if it come to that, proving one in Force and issued before date of FPN.
Dwight VanDriver said:
......so PNC, DVLA Records, ANPR etc etc are no substitute for the ancient Cle 2/6?
Jeez I thought the job was going forward.......
DVD
You should know by now, It never goes forwards, just around in ever decreasing circles until..........
Cle2/6 and Cle2/7 are still the only way to properly deal with VEL offences!
Pies said:
We don't have ANPR in our "normal" Traffic cars (not even a bloody video...), just a special ANPR unit that do mainly ANPR work.
We have one (Yes, ONE) officer for core traffic cover for the Division, about 200 square miles...
FFS whats going on up there
Got to be able to cover the cost of the CC's limo and driver some how
. Can't beleive in this day and age of prioritised policing, that once you write and explain the simple human error behind it and that no 'intent' was shown anyone would want to take it any further.
If they do have a quota to collect this month, then I suggest a bit of negative PR in the local and poss national rags, would help hone the mind somewhat
. Harry
Dwight VanDriver said:
I would suggest you write back to the issuing authority, outline what happened as you have stated, that the vehicle was Taxed, the offence was trivial and occurred as you outline and as a result of an accident. Ask that under the circumstances they would consider writing off the FPN. If they are unable to do so then a Court hearing is requested when you intend to plead Not Guilty.
Any sane FP Office will write off, providing no other offences disclosed, so as not to waste time and money in the pursuit of such a trivial offence, especially now when authorities have the means to instantly interrogate records to confirm whether or not a vehicle is taxed, which is their main concern.
If they don't go for it have your day in Court when you can explain rationally to the Magistrates personally what is outlined above.
Any sane Bench would not inflict a penny in fine and order an Absolute Discharge.
Christ any serving BiB's - this is scraping the barrel isn't it?
DVD
PS. RETAIN THE LICENCE CURRENT AT DATE OF OFFENCE to show at Court, if it come to that, proving one in Force and issued before date of FPN.
Thanks a lot Dwight.
I've read two of your posts now, and it's good to read sound balanced advice.
Thanks again.
Tuan
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