WYP - Possible illegal recruitment policy?

WYP - Possible illegal recruitment policy?

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Patio

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1,049 posts

24 months

Thursday 10th April
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Non-story?

Must be better ways to increase recruitment from ethnic minority groups

Does it diminish the achievement of getting the job if you have a much smaller group of applicants to compete against?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/09/west-y...

Gt6turbo

87 posts

4 months

Thursday 10th April
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i think they can do it temporarily, but not long term. positive discrimination is illegal.

Terminator X

17,252 posts

217 months

Thursday 10th April
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UK is 86% white. What is it in the current Police force?

TX.

xx99xx

2,522 posts

86 months

Thursday 10th April
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Because government stipulates organisations must provide an annual gender pay gap report, which also includes ethnicity. Efforts are therefore made to close the gap and better represent the public they serve.

In an ideal world, if (for example) 50% of the population were white and male, they would want their workforce to also be 50% white and male. Anything else and it makes them look bad.

Simpo Two

88,528 posts

278 months

Thursday 10th April
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Terminator X said:
UK is 86% white. What is it in the current Police force?

TX.
There's no actual reason the two should match. It's not about 'representing the population', you should choose the best/most suitable people for the job regardless of anything else.

MBBlat

1,927 posts

162 months

Thursday 10th April
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Simpo Two said:
Terminator X said:
UK is 86% white. What is it in the current Police force?

TX.
There's no actual reason the two should match. It's not about 'representing the population', you should choose the best/most suitable people for the job regardless of anything else.
So if the best/most suitable people for the job happened to be black women you would be fine with that? How well do you think they would blend into a mostly white male environment if they had to go undercover, or even if in uniform had to deal with people who would only talk to a white male?

Maybe there are reasons why the police ‘representing the population’ is a good thing, especially as UK policing is largely done by consent.

DP14

345 posts

52 months

Friday 11th April
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Patio said:
Does it diminish the achievement of getting the job if you have a much smaller group of applicants to compete against?
Yes.

Those getting jobs this way have a lesser achievement.
Much like many white men had when they didn't have to really compete against uppity women and those forrin looking/sounding types.

Billy Eyelash

795 posts

221 months

Friday 11th April
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Are the NHS taking steps to increase the number of white, mixed race and Chinese employees to match the working age population?

OIC

76 posts

6 months

Friday 11th April
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It's racist.

Or at least an anti-white skinned individuals (who aren't likely to be of one race as such) policy.

This won't work either as certain 'races' have a deeply embedded cultural hatred of the Police.

That's why there aren't many applicants from such individuals.

And when there are such applicants, they should be appointed on merit, not skin tone.


Colonel Cupcake

1,234 posts

58 months

Friday 11th April
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Same force as Lesbian Nana, isn't it?

7mike

3,135 posts

206 months

Friday 11th April
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I live in East Lancashire, no one seems overly bothered about the refuge collectors being all white male. I guess some jobs just don't need to represent the community they serve scratchchin

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43,765 posts

209 months

Friday 11th April
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7mike said:
I live in East Lancashire, no one seems overly bothered about the refuge collectors being all white male. I guess some jobs just don't need to represent the community they serve scratchchin
Assuming the refuse collectors are employed by your Local Council then they're likely to have council-wide policies on recruitment and retention. It's unlikely that they will look at specific roles but they probably have an idea of the council statistics represent the population as a whole.

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43,765 posts

209 months

Friday 11th April
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OIC said:
This won't work either as certain 'races' have a deeply embedded cultural hatred of the Police.
That's bks

OIC said:
And when there are such applicants, they should be appointed on merit, not skin tone.
You would hope so but sadly it doesn't always happen

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2025/mar/uk-employers-l...

edthefed

770 posts

80 months

Friday 11th April
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It would appear two sides to a story ....

You may have seen some articles in the national media today (Thursday, 10 April), suggesting that West Yorkshire Police is blocking or even rejecting white British applicants in our recruitment process.

This story has originated from a query from The Telegraph regarding the force’s approach to Positive Action recruitment. Our full response, sent earlier this week, is below:

“In West Yorkshire Police, we are committed to improving equality, diversity, and inclusion within the organisation, and strive to be more representative of the communities we serve.

“Our Diversity, Equality and Inclusion team supports and consults with those with different protected characteristics such as sex, disability, sexual orientation, and race to ensure their views can influence and improve the service the force delivers. They also work to improve the wellbeing of everybody in the organisation and inclusivity overall.

“The most recent census found that 23 per cent of people in West Yorkshire identified as being from an ethnic minority background. Our current police officer representation from ethnic minority backgrounds is around nine per cent. To address this under-representation, we use Positive Action under the Equality Act 2010. Our use of this was recently reviewed by His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary and Fire and Rescue Services in an Activism and Impartiality inspection and no issues were identified.

“Positive Action allows people from under-represented groups who express an interest in joining the force to complete an application, which is then held on file until a recruitment window is opened. No interviews are held until the window is officially opened to all candidates. Enabling people from under-represented groups to apply early does not give them an advantage in the application process, it simply provides us with more opportunity to attract talent from this pool of applicants.”

West Yorkshire Police has contacted media outlets this afternoon to advise of the inaccuracies within their reports and has respectfully asked for these to be amended as soon as possible.