ZR1cliff - Engine Pics - How not to use sealant!
ZR1cliff - Engine Pics - How not to use sealant!
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TEKWIZ

Original Poster:

283 posts

255 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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Pics of Cliffs engine, I assume this was done by a 1st year apprentice Lada mechanic (No disrespect to Lada intended).
Head showing clear sealant

More sealant

Coolant Housing with more sealant

That hole

yellowshark454

578 posts

261 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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Reminds me of my attempt to mastic in the shower floor!

ZR1forFun

244 posts

267 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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C5RagTop

1,610 posts

268 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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Total incompetence. Outrageous.

te51cle

2,342 posts

268 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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Good grief !! The bloke who I bought my house off was a bodger but even his work wasn't that bad !

Boosted Ls1

21,200 posts

280 months

Wednesday 20th October 2004
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That sealent was added after the installation and looks real messy. Maybe the head was 'wet' but it shouldn't have been. The person didn't even get clear sealant! Either way it shouldn't have been used.

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

269 months

Wednesday 20th October 2004
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TEKWIZ said:
Pics of Cliffs engine, I assume this was done by a 1st year apprentice Lada mechanic (No disrespect to Lada intended).
Head showing clear sealant

More sealant

Coolant Housing with more sealant

That hole



Thanks TEKWIZ for posting the photo's and ZR1forfun for taking them.
This is how the car was returned to me ,the 1st photo shows clear silicone applied between the block and the ladder frame and if it is the hole that is putting out the oil,and i will add we havent road tested as yet then i can only assume this is where they thought the oil was coming from likewise the head with the black silicone.
I am really struggling to get my head around why the hole was not spotted on the 2nd rebuild and then the 2 head gasket replacements later??,i am also struggling to understand the use of silicone in this was ,its a bit like having a leaky tap but lets just put extra silicone round the bath to stop the spread,surely you address the root of the problem.
The coolant housing like the one i am holding in another picture also shows sealant smeared on to stop a leak,once the CH was removed it was easy to see the problem that the threads had been stripped and there was an attempt to use helilocks just to get enough purchase to keep it together.
Mr Jeal i am deeply dissapointed at your work and with your words ringing in my ear from the last telephone conversation "You stick to taxi driving and let me get on with the engineering" before you hung up on me ,there's a corner shop near me advertising a "Paper Round".
The mind boggles at what other surprises await further down in the engine.

IROC

23 posts

261 months

Thursday 21st October 2004
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Looks like it was the "If I smear enough of this around it will eventually fill the gap" mentality. He just didn't smear enough around, that's all.

btw, is Jeal still in business?

b3any

224 posts

262 months

Saturday 23rd October 2004
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Oh dear, i'm no expert but if he is still in business then he wont be for long

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

269 months

Monday 25th October 2004
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IROC said:
Looks like it was the "If I smear enough of this around it will eventually fill the gap" mentality. He just didn't smear enough around, that's all.

btw, is Jeal still in business?


The sad thing is he probably is!,making a living out of mugs like me.
I must aportion some blame to myself as people were warning me ,i even used to stand up for the guy.
I wouldnt even take a bike with the chain off to him now!

VetteG

3,236 posts

264 months

Monday 25th October 2004
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To quote their ad in CCCUk
"Passionate about Corvette, passionate about high performance, Corvette factory trained technicians to look after every facet of your C4/C5.."

Am I glad I have a C3!! Maybe it should be passionate about sealant!!! I wonder what GM would say about this ad for "factory trained technicians".

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

269 months

Tuesday 26th October 2004
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VetteG said:
To quote their ad in CCCUk
"Passionate about Corvette, passionate about high performance, Corvette factory trained technicians to look after every facet of your C4/C5.."

Am I glad I have a C3!! Maybe it should be passionate about sealant!!! I wonder what GM would say about this ad for "factory trained technicians".



Should read "Passionate about your ££corvette££ ,"Passionate about your £Money£","Warranty? what £warranty£!!.

As for the "Factory trained technicians" ,anyone soughting any work should ask for proof of this.

Camaro SS

243 posts

266 months

Wednesday 10th November 2004
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Hi Cliff, I've got photos to show you some time!!
Any further news on how yours is coming on (any of your questions answered yet?). Hope to catch up with you and Joe soon.

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

269 months

Tuesday 16th November 2004
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Camaro SS said:
Hi Cliff, I've got photos to show you some time!!
Any further news on how yours is coming on (any of your questions answered yet?). Hope to catch up with you and Joe soon.



Since getting my car back from "Jerk Jeal & the Silicone kid" ive been doing all the work myself with the help of others.
Ive sorted out the leaks and changed the chip to a non destruct type and am in the process of rebuilding the suspension with new bushes,UJ's,Wheel bearings and ball joints.
As yet none of my questions have been answered and i have not received the letter that i was promised,but then ive served my purpose £££££££££.

c5ragtop

1,610 posts

268 months

Tuesday 16th November 2004
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ZR1cliff said:

"Jerk Jeal & the Silicone kid"


Nearly had a heart attack laughing

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

269 months

Wednesday 17th November 2004
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c5ragtop said:

ZR1cliff said:

"Jerk Jeal & the Silicone kid"



Nearly had a heart attack laughing




Steady as she goes there old boy.