Corvette whips the Astons AGAIN
Corvette whips the Astons AGAIN
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vetteheadracer

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8,273 posts

274 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Dave Richards is not a happy bunny after Aston Martin got their botty's smacked AGAIN by Corvette Racing.

Just read what the bad loser said:

After witnessing another Chevrolet whitewash in the final race of the American Le Mans Series at Laguna Seca, Prodrive owner David Richards has hit out at the handicap that he claims is preventing his team from challenging for race honours.

Having seen the two Aston Martins Prodrive run in the ALMS finish third and fourth, Richards claimed that the Corvettes now have such a significant performance advantage that the rule books need to be readdressed. Indeed, he even hinted that unless the situation is clarified, Aston Martin may not return next year.

"We knew from the outset that the Corvette had a distinct advantage and it has had a pace advantage all year over us. The objective was to ensure both cars got to the finish reliably and they did in the best positions they could expect in the circumstances. It is very clear that the disparity in performance needs to be addressed now by the organisers before we can consider a season back here."

Richards view was mirrored by Aston Martin team principal George Howard-Chappell. "Clearly we are disappointed with our performance. The team did a great job once again, and third and fourth is a credible result but not what we came here for. The handicap and performance breaks given to teams need to be re-adjusted, this is clear and is acknowledged by everyone."

zr1 368

256 posts

269 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Yeh Yeh Yeh they should build a better engine,or shut the f**k up and f**k off.Oh hello nige.

anonymous-user

75 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Well done the Vettes! Maybe there'll be a few old Minardis with extra bodywork running next year. Vettes should beat them too, everyone else does.....

c4koh

735 posts

265 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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I don't know the ins and outs of the situation, but it seems to me like a lot of moanind. What do Aston want? A slower competitor so they can win?

Surely the 'vette and the Aston are in the same class, abiding by the same rules? Sounds alot like whinging to me.

Anybody posted this in the Aston forum ;-) ?

zr1 368

256 posts

269 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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c4koh said:
I don't know the ins and outs of the situation, but it seems to me like a lot of moanind. What do Aston want? A slower competitor so they can win?

Surely the 'vette and the Aston are in the same class, abiding by the same rules? Sounds alot like whinging to me.

Anybody posted this in the Aston forum ;-) ?

Dunno about the aston forum we should send one to the big w****r at top gear j****y c******N.

>> Edited by zr1 368 on Monday 17th October 20:12

Gixer

4,463 posts

269 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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zr1 368 said:


c4koh said:
I don't know the ins and outs of the situation, but it seems to me like a lot of moanind. What do Aston want? A slower competitor so they can win?

Surely the 'vette and the Aston are in the same class, abiding by the same rules? Sounds alot like whinging to me.

Anybody posted this in the Aston forum ;-) ?



Dunno about the aston forum we should send one to the big w****r at top gear j****y c******N.

>> Edited by zr1 368 on Monday 17th October 20:12



HeHe

say what ya mean Joe, stop beating about the bush

>> Edited by Gixer on Monday 17th October 21:13

ZeeTacoe

5,444 posts

243 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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zr1 368 said:



Dunno about the aston forum we should send one to the big w****r at top gear j****y c******N.

>> Edited by zr1 368 on Monday 17th October 20:12


seems the yanks can't take any criticism about their perfe.....plastic "sports" car.

c5ragtop

1,610 posts

269 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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ZeeTacoe said:


seems the yanks can't take any criticism about their perfe.....plastic "sports" car.



Constructive, well founded criticism is acceptable.

JC's style of sensationalist criticism is not.

Thank you for your comments ZeeTacoe, now please clear off.



>> Edited by c5ragtop on Monday 17th October 22:17

kevinday

13,614 posts

301 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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c5ragtop, to me you appear to have proved his point, anyway to get back on topic:

Although both cars are in the same class is there any difference in restrictions, such as intake restrictors? If so, then maybe AM has a point, if not, then they do not. This is all IMHO...

jellison

12,803 posts

298 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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"We knew from the outset that the Corvette had a distinct advantage and it has had a pace advantage all year over us."

NOT at Le Man's where the Vette - were killed on pure Pace - BUT they were there at the end so Won.

franv8

2,212 posts

259 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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We win again!

Gixer

4,463 posts

269 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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ZeeTacoe said:

zr1 368 said:



Dunno about the aston forum we should send one to the big w****r at top gear j****y c******N.

>> Edited by zr1 368 on Monday 17th October 20:12



seems the yanks can't take any criticism about their perfe.....plastic "sports" car.


Am I missing something? The last time I looked Aston were owned by Ford, making them American too....just lacking in the muscle department heheheehhe

RUBY RAG TOP

237 posts

268 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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kevinday said:
c5ragtop, to me you appear to have proved his point, anyway to get back on topic:

Although both cars are in the same class is there any difference in restrictions, such as intake restrictors? If so, then maybe AM has a point, if not, then they do not. This is all IMHO...


Most of the comments on this forum are posted by British Vette owners, not the 'yanks' Case closed?

eric the brave

396 posts

268 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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Do performance restrictions cause you to run out of petrol at the most prestigious endurance event of the year?

Aston Martin have been beaten all year long by class, professionalism and a better looking and sounding car!

They should get a grip. As always, don't talk about it, do it on the track!

ZeeTacoe

5,444 posts

243 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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ok serious question.

how long have Chevy been racing the 'vette in the ALMS or at le mans?

c4koh

735 posts

265 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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ZeeTacoe said:
ok serious question.

how long have Chevy been racing the 'vette in the ALMS or at le mans?



I don't know. Probably less than Aston Martin - but of course there's the typical Yank-bashing dilemma. If Corvette comes out, races and does well - it'll be because of (delete as appropriate) bottomless pits of GM money, not fair rules, etc.

Of course if Corvette didn't come out and win these things, everybody would say "howcome if the 'vette is supposed to be a serious car, don't you go out and race it in Le Mans."

Poor old Corvette. Never can win... there's always some "snag" as to why:

- the Corvette Z06 gets round the 'ring in 7:40 (snag: can't remember the waffler here, but I think cause Chevy used a pro-driver)
- the Corvette is modern technology (snag: it uses a extremely simple but effective rear spring, it doesn't use overhead cams... never mind it does so reliably and functionally)
- why the ZR1 holds and still holds for a factory produced car, 7 FIA world records for endurance (snag: it wasn't a European car, and anyway, reliability isn't sexy - you need a car to-a be-like-a woman, temporamental)
- why 90% of 'vettes ever built are still around (snag: it's fibre glass and loads of alloy are yukky material)
- why the Corvette is not a Supercar (snag: despite the Z06 being 0-60 in 3.6s, it's not a Supercar because?? actually I can't remember why not, but anyway...)
- why the Corvette has never - despite large displacement - incurred gas guzzler tax in the US (snag: really it should, as a proper sports car doesn't worry about MPG)

Oh the list goes on and on. So many things the Corvette just does well, but always some bemoaning about this or that.

Jealousy comes in many forms - no other car matches the Corvette for the *combination* of value for money, power, looks, longetivity and long-term reliability and ease of service.

Thank god though - if there was another car that came close the 'vette wouldn't be here.

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

270 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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This would of been a good thread if the page hadnt gone too wide,i have to keep moving the poxy page to read the end of the line,why does it do that?

franv8

2,212 posts

259 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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Can we go on everyone elses thread and trash their cars?

Gixer

4,463 posts

269 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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No way am going on a thread talking about 50cc bikes, they're 950cc too small

97BlackC5

357 posts

259 months

Wednesday 19th October 2005
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ZeeTacoe says:

ok serious question.

how long have Chevy been racing the 'vette in the ALMS or at le mans?

Chevy started racing in the ALMS with the C5-R in 1999, going to le Mans in 2000 with the C5-R, they campaigned the C5-R in the ALMS & at Le Mans until the end of 2004 when the C6-R took over. Hope this answers you question.