EVO gives Z06 a big thumbs up.
EVO gives Z06 a big thumbs up.
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LuS1fer

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43,108 posts

266 months

Friday 2nd December 2005
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Haven't seen my copy yet but the December EVO apparently gives it 4.5 out of 5 and gives TG a slap about the suspension jibes too.

chrisx666

808 posts

282 months

Friday 2nd December 2005
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Yep, read it last week. Good report.

anonymous-user

75 months

Saturday 3rd December 2005
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Thanks for the tip Wayne. Picked up a copy this morning and it's a good review. Although they are kind to the suspension they are less keen on the gear-change and steering. Still, 4.5 out of 5 is a great rating for any Vette in Europe and I'll be surprised if it won't meet or beat anything else at £60,000. A fantastic car and sounds to be by far the best Vette yet.

I'm not convinced by them saying it's dry sumped for uber-cornering as the standard car will pull huge g's anyway. My guess is 7 litres in a small block needs a longer crank throw and the LS engines have a very flat oil pan in the Vette to start with.

Z06 - Hit!
Pontiac Solstice - Miss! (Come on GM, you have to do better than that)

Boosted Ls1

21,200 posts

281 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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5USA said:

I'm not convinced by them saying it's dry sumped for uber-cornering as the standard car will pull huge g's anyway. My guess is 7 litres in a small block needs a longer crank throw and the LS engines have a very flat oil pan in the Vette to start with.


As you say the pan is flat but it is big winged and nicely baffled. There's room for more throw though but I know where you're coming from. I don't think much about the ls2 pan, that's a budget item and pretty crap imho. I can't see why the ls7 needs a dry sump, it's just a load more work and things to go wrong.

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anonymous-user

75 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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Boosted Ls1 said:
As you say the pan is flat but it is big winged and....
Yes, definitely winged on the C5 but haven't they abandoned the wings for C6? Can't say I've had a look underneath one to check though. Maybe I'm just
Boosted Ls1 said:
...nicely baffled.

Boosted Ls1

21,200 posts

281 months

Monday 5th December 2005
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5USA said:
Boosted Ls1 said:
As you say the pan is flat but it is big winged and....
Yes, definitely winged on the C5 but haven't they abandoned the wings for C6? Can't say I've had a look underneath one to check though. Maybe I'm just
Boosted Ls1 said:
...nicely baffled.


If the c6 shares the same pan as an ls2 then it's really cheap. I believe they did ditch the wings for the C6. When you look at a c5 split pan you can see the costs involved, it's expensive. The ls2 pan is a one piece casting and would cost less then half the price to produce. It's very ordinary!

This is like the headers. The hydroformed 385 hp vette headers are expensive to make but really very nice in several ways. So they went back to cast iron headers for the ls6 and said they were better, yeh right, cheaper but not better! Funny that the ls7 has hydroformed headers. Next year when they ramp up production it will get cast iron headers, because GM will say they're better. It will also get a cheapi water pump as well as some other cost cutting measures!

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stevieturbo

17,917 posts

268 months

Tuesday 6th December 2005
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Long stroke ?? You can now get a 500ci LSx variant, which is a little over 8.0...nice

vetteheadracer

8,273 posts

274 months

Tuesday 6th December 2005
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"standard" C6 didn't do very well in the final of the Evo Car of the Year

anonymous-user

75 months

Wednesday 7th December 2005
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vetteheadracer said:
"standard" C6 didn't do very well in the final of the Evo Car of the Year
C5 = fundamentally good car, some limitations.
C6 = fundamentally same car, same limitations.

vetteheadracer

8,273 posts

274 months

Wednesday 7th December 2005
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5USA said:
vetteheadracer said:
"standard" C6 didn't do very well in the final of the Evo Car of the Year
C5 = fundamentally good car, some limitations.
C6 = fundamentally same car, same limitations.


C6 = fundamentally same car, same limitations.....but(t) ugl(y)ier

LuS1fer

Original Poster:

43,108 posts

266 months

Wednesday 7th December 2005
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Well it was a bit of a shocker to me to see the Roush Mustang come equal third. Since my Mustang has more power from the Vortech chargecooled blower fitted (462bhp) and has a better suspension on the way (Tokico Spec-D shocks), it bodes well for my long term ownership with the car. I'm rather pleased.

jaytee368

2,058 posts

265 months

Thursday 8th December 2005
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LuS1fer said:
Well it was a bit of a shocker to me to see the Roush Mustang come equal third.

Lusi, if I may, have you got any links to some pics of the Roush Mustang by any chance?
Choice set of wheels you have there, BTW.

LuS1fer

Original Poster:

43,108 posts

266 months

Thursday 8th December 2005
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jaytee368 said:
LuS1fer said:
Well it was a bit of a shocker to me to see the Roush Mustang come equal third.

Lusi, if I may, have you got any links to some pics of the Roush Mustang by any chance?
Choice set of wheels you have there, BTW.


I don't, I'm afraid. The Roush website is www.roush.co.uk and the US version is www.roush.com but the US versions are different to the UK version with a more over the top body kit.

Dakkon

7,827 posts

274 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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vetteheadracer said:
5USA said:
vetteheadracer said:
"standard" C6 didn't do very well in the final of the Evo Car of the Year
C5 = fundamentally good car, some limitations.
C6 = fundamentally same car, same limitations.


C6 = fundamentally same car, same limitations.....but(t) ugl(y)ier


You grump , I think the C6 Z06 looks great, very purposeful.

vetteheadracer

8,273 posts

274 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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Dakkon said:
vetteheadracer said:
5USA said:
vetteheadracer said:
"standard" C6 didn't do very well in the final of the Evo Car of the Year
C5 = fundamentally good car, some limitations.
C6 = fundamentally same car, same limitations.


C6 = fundamentally same car, same limitations.....but(t) ugl(y)ier


You grump , I think the C6 Z06 looks great, very purposeful.


Okay i'll give you the C6 Z06 looks good but the standard C6 doesn't do it for me.

LuS1fer

Original Poster:

43,108 posts

266 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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The Z06 doesn't do it for me either. The whole C6 thing needs a restyle.

kenski

276 posts

265 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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Definitely calls for a restyle :-) Might be some time, though. Apart from minor tweaks the C5 didn't change much for how many years?

It's funny but no matter how many times I see the C6 (seen a few in London) I just can't force myself to like it. I haven't seen a Z06 in the flesh and it's easy to get titillated by the close-up pictures of wheels etc, but for me the distinctiveness and charm of the Corvette was lost on this generation.

-kenski

anonymous-user

75 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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I'm not about to shell out hard cash on a C6 although I do feel it's a sensible update of C5. Perhaps too sensible! The front is bland and generic (similar to the latest Viper and various Japanese cars) but I think the rest of the car works well, especially in euro spec without those ***** rear foglights.

Z06 looks very good in the flesh. More muscular than base C6 without going OTT. The nostril in the hood and the extra side vents help a lot even if the nostril is so similar to Viper's. The very stiff aluminium chassis of Z06 might be the great leap forward that's needed to seriously challenge European semi-supercars though this needs to be proven in side by side testing. Of one thing I am confident; it'll blow an £80k Aston V8 into the weeds and give that Bentley coupe a run for half its money!

Accept C6 for what it is - C5 Mk2 - and it makes sense.

vetteheadracer

8,273 posts

274 months

Friday 9th December 2005
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My problem with the C6 (and the Z06) is the looks of the car. To me the back reminds me of an 84-89 C4 which is easily the worst looking rear in Corvette history. The front looks like a wide mouth frog and no matter what they do to it that is always the image my mind conjures up....bit like Reggie Perrin and the mother-in-law....if you are old enough to remember that!

I am sure that the Z06 will be a fantastic car (although it is way too quiet at idle) but I would rather save my money and buy something I like the look of.

I know looks are only skin deep but would you date an ugly bird, when you could date her pretty sister?



>> Edited by vetteheadracer on Friday 9th December 16:33

franv8

2,212 posts

259 months

Saturday 10th December 2005
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I like my rear end thank you very much!

Not intended as a revenge comment - but don't you think Mazda kind of beet Chevrolet to the C5 with their twin turbo RX7's?? (Front three quarter view that is)