Self adhesive nose cone plate
Self adhesive nose cone plate
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donaldosaurus

Original Poster:

211 posts

229 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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Hello,

new to the wonderful world of sevens but enjoying mine very much.

I have a self adhesive plate for the front on reflective background, proper font and spacing but reduced in length as I have a very short reg.

What is the MOT regulations here please as I have seen loads of sevens with such plates?. They certainly look good.

regards

Donaldosaurus

huwp

833 posts

201 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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Technically a fail but lots get away with it.

DCL

1,228 posts

205 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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As above really but this is the DVLA link:


http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/PersonalisedR...

They do say:


''The Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency is not aware of any self-adhesive number plates that meet the British Standard requirements.''

Irrotational

1,580 posts

214 months

Saturday 23rd June 2012
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There are giant threads on this on Blatchat, but I'm on my phone so can't link....

Technically I think the penalty for a wrong plate is worse than no plate....


Noger

7,117 posts

275 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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Spare plate in the boot. Oldest trick in the book. "it fell off, officer".

mickrick

3,755 posts

199 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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I read somewhere that a normal plate attached in the ususal place, at the bottom lip of the nose cone reduces front end lift.
How true this is I have no idea.

Irrotational

1,580 posts

214 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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There are giant threads on this on Blatchat, but I'm on my phone so can't link....

Technically I think the penalty for a wrong plate is worse than no plate....


Eugene7

741 posts

220 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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I've had a sticky front plate for over 23 years....

Never had a problem biggrin

As for a normal front plate reducing front end lift, I seriously doubt it - the angle is just wrong for that.

mickrick

3,755 posts

199 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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You would think so. But you would think the same about a Gurney flap too.

DCL

1,228 posts

205 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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Eugene7 said:
As for a normal front plate reducing front end lift, I seriously doubt it - the angle is just wrong for that.
It may not reduce lift but it certainly reduces drag. I found my Vmax with a front plate is better so I've always used one on track. Funnily enough, last week, following a wee accident in the garage, I went out without one and the Vmax was significantly down - maybe by as much as 5 mph.

I put it down to it acting like an air-dam/splitter giving a cleaner airflow under the car. Similar to the CSR chin http://www.caterhamparts.co.uk/product.php?id_prod...


anonymous-user

80 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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Noger said:
Spare plate in the boot. Oldest trick in the book. "it fell off, officer".
That's fine until the same local copper who stopped you last week sees it again "fallen off" and, being on a Seven, easily remembers the car......as has happened to many, many people.

Noger

7,117 posts

275 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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Crossflow Kid said:
Noger said:
Spare plate in the boot. Oldest trick in the book. "it fell off, officer".
That's fine until the same local copper who stopped you last week sees it again "fallen off" and, being on a Seven, easily remembers the car......as has happened to many, many people.
Many many ? Really really ?

Can't see a "local" plod really bothering. Trouble seems to be ANPR where they can't recognise you. Just don't drive there again smile

one eyed mick

1,189 posts

187 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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I think that the legal/non legal plate issue arises when pulled or camera spotted doing things you perhaps shouldn't ,not trying to be holier than any one but I have run an illegal plate for ten years no probs even at 37 in a 30 ,didn't moan paid up and placed it in that file I never open

anonymous-user

80 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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Noger said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Noger said:
Spare plate in the boot. Oldest trick in the book. "it fell off, officer".
That's fine until the same local copper who stopped you last week sees it again "fallen off" and, being on a Seven, easily remembers the car......as has happened to many, many people.
Many many ? Really really ?

Can't see a "local" plod really bothering. Trouble seems to be ANPR where they can't recognise you. Just don't drive there again smile
Yes, really really. The assumption is that traffic rozzers only ever see an errant car once and it never crosses their path ever again. This assumption is entirely incorrect, and in the same way that Seven owners have their favourites haunts, so does Dibble. I'd agree on the "Don't go there again" tactic. The folk I do know who've fallen foul of repeat offences are those who go to the same cafe, via the same route, on the same day, at the same time.

Noger

7,117 posts

275 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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Oh Ok then smile I have not had a problem in 20 years of stick on grill/nose numbers. But then the law doesn't apply to me wink

Z3MCJez

531 posts

198 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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DCL said:
It may not reduce lift but it certainly reduces drag. I found my Vmax with a front plate is better so I've always used one on track. Funnily enough, last week, following a wee accident in the garage, I went out without one and the Vmax was significantly down - maybe by as much as 5 mph.

I put it down to it acting like an air-dam/splitter giving a cleaner airflow under the car. Similar to the CSR chin http://www.caterhamparts.co.uk/product.php?id_prod...
DCL - You don't run any data do you? In a race 1moh VMax is significant. 5 would be incredible!

DCL

1,228 posts

205 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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Z3MCJez said:
DCL said:
It may not reduce lift but it certainly reduces drag. I found my Vmax with a front plate is better so I've always used one on track. Funnily enough, last week, following a wee accident in the garage, I went out without one and the Vmax was significantly down - maybe by as much as 5 mph.

I put it down to it acting like an air-dam/splitter giving a cleaner airflow under the car. Similar to the CSR chin http://www.caterhamparts.co.uk/product.php?id_prod...
DCL - You don't run any data do you? In a race 1moh VMax is significant. 5 would be incredible!
Unless you do back-to-back sessions if difficult to be sure of what the exact numbers are, but my best Vmax at my local track (Knockhill) is 119 mph. This was with the plate and last weekend, without it, the Vmax was 114. There are too many other variables, particularly wind, to be sure what the plate gives you but I've done enough to know there is an advantage.

sfaulds

653 posts

304 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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No offence, but that's horsest. As you said, there are far too many variables to make that a valid comment, so why make it? I've spent an awful lot of time trying to find every tenth of a second possible out of 120bhp Caterhams, and I can assure you that a number plate is a *long* way down the list of things that make a difference.

mickrick

3,755 posts

199 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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But does it reduce front end lift?
Why the chin spoiler on a CSR?

anonymous-user

80 months

Thursday 28th June 2012
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sfaulds said:
No offence, but that's horsest. As you said, there are far too many variables to make that a valid comment, so why make it? I've spent an awful lot of time trying to find every tenth of a second possible out of 120bhp Caterhams, and I can assure you that a number plate is a *long* way down the list of things that make a difference.
hehe
Yup, taking a really big dump beforehand adds more to the "Veeeeeemax".....grrrrrr.......racing driver talk.