how to start a car fitted with Weber Carburettors?
how to start a car fitted with Weber Carburettors?
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JB052

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156 posts

251 months

Sunday 7th July 2013
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I'm looking after a Caterham at the moment. Its has the Ford engine and is fitted with twin Webers.

I appreciate every car is different but what is the suggested starting technique for a car running Webers?

m8rky

2,090 posts

188 months

Sunday 7th July 2013
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That really is a how long is a piece of string question.As a starting point I would suggest about 3/4 choke and dont touch the throttle until it has been running for a few seconds but it does vary with state of tune,condition of engine and how the webers are jetted.

DVandrews

1,382 posts

312 months

Sunday 7th July 2013
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Give it half choke, then hit the accelerator pedal round 5 times to prime the inlet manifold. Then crank with no throttle.

Dave

HolbaySS

45 posts

161 months

Sunday 7th July 2013
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None of my Weber fitted 7's ever had a choke.

If electric pump fitted; switch on, wait for the pump to slow down, 4 or 5 pumps on the throttle, operate the starter and the beastie should run.

If mechanical pump; A few pumps on the throttle and operate the starter. Be prepared to play with the throttle as soon as there's life.

Good luck :-)

HustleRussell

26,487 posts

189 months

Sunday 7th July 2013
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I haven't seen a Caterham with a choke knob. The usual way is to prime the engine using the throttle pumps, mine likes 5-6 pumps of the throttle before starting but some start with no pumps! As with a choke of course, you'll only need to do this if the engine is stone cold and hasn't run in over 4 hours.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 7th July 2013
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HolbaySS said:
If mechanical pump; A few pumps on the throttle and operate the starter. Be prepared to play with the throttle as soon as there's life.
This is what I do too. If it's sat for a while, up to eight pumps of the throttle, then turn it over with no throttle at all, then as soon as it fires about half throttle to help it on its way.

downsman

1,099 posts

185 months

Sunday 7th July 2013
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I've owned three cars fitted with twin side draught carbs, two with Webers, one with Solex (Strada Abarth biggrin )
With all three, any use of the choke almost guaranteed flooding. From cold two or three pumps and then catch it with the throttle and allow to warm a little before allowing to idle. From hot just turning the key was all that was required.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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Never use the choke, if its conected disconect it, even when I ran my Lorus Sunbeam in Norway I never had the choke conected, even in the middle of winter. Let the pump prime the float chembers and then either pump the trottle a few time, if cold, or if hot open the throttle betwee 1/4 and half, with no pumpoing, I've had loads of cars with twin webbers since my E;an Sprint in the 70's and they are all a little different, I have two now and they start differently, the 1700 Super sprint needs no throttle even from cold, while I have a 1300 cross flow that needs half throotle even when hot.

Noger

7,117 posts

278 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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Fully charged battery helps a lot.

Never had a problem when it was on the Optimate. But without....could be a right pig to start if it had been left.

NuisanceFactor

295 posts

213 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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downsman said:
From cold two or three pumps and then catch it with the throttle and allow to warm a little before allowing to idle. From hot just turning the key was all that was required.
This is what worked for my 1700 Supersprint.
Didn't take long to be able to leave it to idle by itself - 20 secs or so was generally enough, whatever the weather/temperature.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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Same here (1600 Crossflow on Twin Weber 45s). No choke fitted. Usually starts with about 5 to 6 pumps of the accelerator.

If the car has not been driven for a while (months sometimes in my case) it can take quite an effort to get the engine started - often up to ten minutes of careful pedal pumping. The main concern in these circumstances is making sure you don't run the battery down.


Smollet

16,375 posts

219 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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As an aside if the car hasn't been used for a while would it be worth priming it with some petrol sprayed into the trumpets?

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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Not a great fan of spraying petrol liberally about - especially in atomised form.

HustleRussell

26,487 posts

189 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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Smollet said:
As an aside if the car hasn't been used for a while would it be worth priming it with some petrol sprayed into the trumpets?
The throttle pumps do the same job really.

JB052

Original Poster:

156 posts

251 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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Thanks everyone for your input.

Car has no choke and is fitted with a mechanical pump. I was only using two throttle pumps and it seems better with three or four.

What is the suggested technique if after a few pumps the car fires but then dies? Is it more throttle pumps or leave it alone?

JB

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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JB052 said:
What is the suggested technique if after a few pumps the car fires but then dies? Is it more throttle pumps or leave it alone?

JB
I just crank it again without any priming. Anything more floods it.

HustleRussell

26,487 posts

189 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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Crossflow Kid said:
JB052 said:
What is the suggested technique if after a few pumps the car fires but then dies? Is it more throttle pumps or leave it alone?

JB
I just crank it again without any priming. Anything more floods it.
and get used to tickling the throttle to coax the thing into life when the engine initially fires