Cheaper method than a dry sump?

[Gingerbread Man]

Oil surge on a 1.8 VVC K Series. Is there a cheaper way to solve it than a dry sumped setup?

I've seen comments regarding a few different baffle attempts from 2005 and wondered how they were getting on?

My current setup is the standard sump, some holes on the gasket and an apollo tank.

[cwin]

Gingerbread Man said:

Oil surge on a 1.8 VVC K Series. Is there a cheaper way to solve it than a dry sumped setup?

I've seen comments regarding a few different baffle attempts from 2005 and wondered how they were getting on?

My current setup is the standard sump, some holes on the gasket and an apollo tank.

Google accusump they work very well.

[pikeyboy]

An expensive dry sump is still cheaper than a new engine. Accusmps are passable and are widly used in the US but dry sumps are much better.

[Gingerbread Man]

Accusump seem like a good midway point. I'll look into them a bit more. Thanks for the suggestion.
I agree that a dry sump is for the best, but it's quite a bit of money in my already big bill of rebuilding and then shipping overseas. So at the moment, it's all adding up.

[cwin]

boy said:

An expensive dry sump is still cheaper than a new engine. Accusmps are passable and are widly used in the US but dry sumps are much better.

True but the question was alternative to a dry sump, we run one on the TVR with a 7 ltr race engine and don't have any oil surge issues,
You can buy them in different sizes to suit your engine size, lotus 211s fit them as standard.

[Gingerbread Man]

cwin said:

True but the question was alternative to a dry sump, we run one on the TVR with a 7 ltr race engine and don't have any oil surge issues,
You can buy them in different sizes to suit your engine size, lotus 211s fit them as standard.

Can you not run a dry sump, or is this method satisfactory for your needs?

[cwin]

Gingerbread Man said:

Can you not run a dry sump, or is this method satisfactory for your needs?

We did, we used the Baily one that was supplied with the engine builder in the states but we had issues with it, it did the crank shells twice in 4 meetings, we lost faith in it after hours and hours of phone calls to the states with Baily, we put the biggest accusump on we could buy and haven't had issues since,

The dry sumps that are used on the caterhams are tried and tested so you won't have the issues we had, but an accusump also works, Lotus wouldn't fit them as std on there 211 which is built for the track,

[cwin]

If you need any help pm me and I can put you in touch with the right man for the job,

This is his work on a std Chevy sump, trap doors fitted, no issues since.

[pikeyboy]

cwin said:

True but the question was alternative to a dry sump, we run one on the TVR with a 7 ltr race engine and don't have any oil surge issues,
You can buy them in different sizes to suit your engine size, lotus 211s fit them as standard.

A properly designed dry sump set up helps cool and deairate the oil so is far superior to an accusump. A 211 may have an accusump to reduce cost just as some caterhams use a appolo anti cav tank, doesnt mean its better than a dry sump. Personally if you've spent some money on the engine why scrimp on the oil system, false economy imho.

[cwin]

boy said:

A properly designed dry sump set up helps cool and deairate the oil so is far superior to an accusump. A 211 may have an accusump to reduce cost just as some caterhams use a appolo anti cav tank, doesnt mean its better than a dry sump. Personally if you've spent some money on the engine why scrimp on the oil system, false economy imho.

Have you not read the OPs post properly ? He asked if there was a cheeper alternative ? He seems to want to have the same result as Lotus chose on their 211.

Why is it false economy if it works ?

Who said it was better than a dry sump ?

[Gingerbread Man]

A bit of reading on Blatchat shows up the Accusump love. I'll look into it all. Thanks folks.

[Batwing 7]

My current 7 had a dry-sump when I got it. However, I was 'umming and arring' what to do with my last 7 and looked at an Accusump. I like the idea of being able to pre-oil the enginge before start-up. Particularly when you can remember how much that engine cost you.....