Forza 4 - Steering wheels... Talk to me!
Forza 4 - Steering wheels... Talk to me!
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450Nick

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241 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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I've got a Logitec G25 which I've had for ages now but found out that it won't work with Forza 4, or in fact any Xbox game.. So I'm thinking of sticking it on Ebay and getting hold of a new one. Is the Fanatec CSR the only one available? It seems a little over priced, and a bit of a faff to buy as you have to get it in bits. There must be a simple solution, but retaining a good deal of realism??

mackie1

8,169 posts

262 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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There is a box of tricks you can get that will let a G25 work with the XBox. It's not particularly cheap but will be much cheaper than changing to a Fanatec.

andrewrob

2,913 posts

219 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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If you are interested in Fanatec wheels have a look at this thread

http://pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&amp...

and this one from the Forza forum
http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/49...

I've done a fair bit of reading up on these now and am pretty much sold on getting a CSR or GT2.

Jamesd49

2,916 posts

235 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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There are two Fanatec wheels which can be used on Xbox which is the CSR and GT2 and they are brining out a CSR Elite wheel next year.

This is a very good video about wheels - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34ZXIqe8Psg

450Nick

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Friday 28th October 2011
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Any idea what the CSR Elite will have above the CSR? Just wondering whether I get an adapter for the G25 and then get the CSR Elite next year, or just get the CSR now..?

Original Poster

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205 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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Fanatec is the way forward.

There are 3 possible wheels, the CSR, the GT2 and the 911 Turbo S (which you'd have to get second hand now).

You'll also need pedals, Fanatec do 4 different sets with ranging prices.

You'll also need a stand, I use the Fanatec Rennsport stand personally.

Only other optional choice is shifters, Fanatec do 2 different types.

Jamesd49

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Friday 28th October 2011
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450Nick said:
Any idea what the CSR Elite will have above the CSR? Just wondering whether I get an adapter for the G25 and then get the CSR Elite next year, or just get the CSR now..?
There are reports that the CRS elite wheel will be £500 where as the CRS is about £250 and they don't include pedals. I have been reading that with the Elite you can change the wheel style, so you can have a standard wheel or a F1 style wheel plus others.

I think the CSR wheel, with elite pedals with the kit to flip the pedals and the Rennsport stand is the way to go.


450Nick

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Friday 28th October 2011
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Sounds like a plan to me - except whats this about flipping the pedals??

andrewrob

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450Nick said:
Sounds like a plan to me - except whats this about flipping the pedals??
You can invert them with an optional kit so they look like this
http://wheelreviews.yolasite.com/resources/CSR%20e...

Jamesd49

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Friday 28th October 2011
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450Nick said:
Sounds like a plan to me - except whats this about flipping the pedals??
Taken off Fanatec website "First pedal set to offer optional Inversion Kit. Owners can invert all or just the pedals they prefer to better fit their driving style." I think the kit is about £50. Instead of pushing down to the floor you push on the pedals like in a normal car so at a slight angle if that makes sense smile

Chunkychucky

6,094 posts

198 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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450Nick said:
Any idea what the CSR Elite will have above the CSR? Just wondering whether I get an adapter for the G25 and then get the CSR Elite next year, or just get the CSR now..?
Basically, the CSR Elite is a much higher-end piece of kit, more designed for serious sim racers than casual console racers. The mechanism is completely different inside to anything Fanatec have offered so far, in that instead of using a geared system is uses a worm drive system with belts, which supposedly offer far more accurate force feedback and eliminate any of the slack you may experience with a geared wheel. The system is alot more specialised and normally only used on Frex and ECCI wheels, systems which retail for £1000+, so actually pretty good value when you compare what its competitors retail for, just a question of how seriously you take your racing smile.

450Nick

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Friday 28th October 2011
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Well I'm hoping to start my (real) racing career next year if I finally get the car finished in time so I'd like it to be more of a sim if possible so I can get a bit more practice. I've got floor mount pedals in the Tuscan so I'll probably leave them as they are but not sure I really need the full bucket seat and stuff so the stand you mention coupled with the Elite wheel up against the sofa should work nicely.. Any ideas on a release date? I'll probably get the adapter in the meantime then and keep the G25, then sell it when the Elite wheel comes out, though that is a fair old wedge for a video game when you add the wheel + pedals + shifter + stand so I'll give it a bit of thought I guess in the interim.

Jamesd49

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235 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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450Nick said:
Well I'm hoping to start my (real) racing career next year if I finally get the car finished in time so I'd like it to be more of a sim if possible so I can get a bit more practice. I've got floor mount pedals in the Tuscan so I'll probably leave them as they are but not sure I really need the full bucket seat and stuff so the stand you mention coupled with the Elite wheel up against the sofa should work nicely.. Any ideas on a release date? I'll probably get the adapter in the meantime then and keep the G25, then sell it when the Elite wheel comes out, though that is a fair old wedge for a video game when you add the wheel + pedals + shifter + stand so I'll give it a bit of thought I guess in the interim.
What car you going to be racing? Tuscan? I would say the best wheel to get is the CSR, elite pedals, shifter set and stand.

Edited by Jamesd49 on Friday 28th October 14:56

Altrezia

8,740 posts

240 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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450Nick said:
Well I'm hoping to start my (real) racing career next year if I finally get the car finished in time so I'd like it to be more of a sim if possible so I can get a bit more practice. I've got floor mount pedals in the Tuscan so I'll probably leave them as they are but not sure I really need the full bucket seat and stuff so the stand you mention coupled with the Elite wheel up against the sofa should work nicely.. Any ideas on a release date? I'll probably get the adapter in the meantime then and keep the G25, then sell it when the Elite wheel comes out, though that is a fair old wedge for a video game when you add the wheel + pedals + shifter + stand so I'll give it a bit of thought I guess in the interim.
Forza doesnt feel sim-like with a wheel. It feels like you're playing a console game with a wheel.

Try PC for more realistic sims, but still, no comparison to actually doing it .

450Nick

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Friday 28th October 2011
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Yeah the Tuscan in my profile hopefully..! Not seen the PM yet but I'll keep an eye out for it

Jamesd49

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Friday 28th October 2011
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450Nick said:
Yeah the Tuscan in my profile hopefully..! Not seen the PM yet but I'll keep an eye out for it
Ok interesting. I tried sending it but would not go through will try in a bit.

450Nick

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Friday 28th October 2011
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ah try my email, its just nick dot simpson at hotmail dot com

Jamesd49

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Friday 28th October 2011
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450Nick said:
ah try my email, its just nick dot simpson at hotmail dot com
email sent

Edited by Jamesd49 on Friday 28th October 15:19

Dr JonboyG

2,561 posts

268 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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Altrezia said:
Forza doesnt feel sim-like with a wheel. It feels like you're playing a console game with a wheel.

Try PC for more realistic sims, but still, no comparison to actually doing it .
Perhaps you need a better wheel? Forza 3+Fanatec was pretty good training for doing the real thing at Road America in my experience.

450Nick

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Monday 31st October 2011
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Yeah I have pc games for sim stuff, but I want a wheel that I can use with both because forza is just good fun to play, and much better with a wheel than a controller.. Where do you buy the adapter from for the g25 by the way? Straight from Fanatec? Does it retain all of the functions and work properly?