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Announcement anticipated 20 February.
Apologies if repost. Being reported today that Sony Corp will this month host its first major Playstation meeting in two years, sparking a flare-up in online speculation the Japanese consumer electronics giant is preparing to unveil the successor to its 70 million-selling PS3 games console.
Link to Reuters article here:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/02/01/us-sony-p...
Apologies if repost. Being reported today that Sony Corp will this month host its first major Playstation meeting in two years, sparking a flare-up in online speculation the Japanese consumer electronics giant is preparing to unveil the successor to its 70 million-selling PS3 games console.
Link to Reuters article here:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/02/01/us-sony-p...
But but but... what gaming needs is more ultra linear corridor shooters with even MORE explosions and even BETTER looking things to shoot at. Isn't it ?
I kind of agree that we don't need new consoles, the problems with games nowadays isn't the limitation of the hardware they are running on. No doubt the PS4 will launch another Drake game, where Drake can again grab at a ledge just as it crumbles requiring him to grab another ledge just at the last minute before cracking a "witty" one-liner and continuing on his little railway line straight path to the next cutscene, the ledges will look MUCH better though. The cut scenes as well.
Also, more micro-transactions and MORE DLC!!!
Dead Space 3 is launching with 11 Day One DLC items. It's becoming a joke.
Aside from a few titles, games on this gen have been so disappointing. I don't see them getting better with better hardware.
I kind of agree that we don't need new consoles, the problems with games nowadays isn't the limitation of the hardware they are running on. No doubt the PS4 will launch another Drake game, where Drake can again grab at a ledge just as it crumbles requiring him to grab another ledge just at the last minute before cracking a "witty" one-liner and continuing on his little railway line straight path to the next cutscene, the ledges will look MUCH better though. The cut scenes as well.
Also, more micro-transactions and MORE DLC!!!
Dead Space 3 is launching with 11 Day One DLC items. It's becoming a joke.
Aside from a few titles, games on this gen have been so disappointing. I don't see them getting better with better hardware.
LandR said:
But but but... what gaming needs is more ultra linear corridor shooters with even MORE explosions and even BETTER looking things to shoot at. Isn't it ?
I kind of agree that we don't need new consoles, the problems with games nowadays isn't the limitation of the hardware they are running on. No doubt the PS4 will launch another Drake game, where Drake can again grab at a ledge just as it crumbles requiring him to grab another ledge just at the last minute before cracking a "witty" one-liner and continuing on his little railway line straight path to the next cutscene, the ledges will look MUCH better though. The cut scenes as well.
Also, more micro-transactions and MORE DLC!!!
Dead Space 3 is launching with 11 Day One DLC items. It's becoming a joke.
Aside from a few titles, games on this gen have been so disappointing. I don't see them getting better with better hardware.
You're kidding? They're struggling to run todays games at a constant frame rate whilst looking worse than their PC counterparts.I kind of agree that we don't need new consoles, the problems with games nowadays isn't the limitation of the hardware they are running on. No doubt the PS4 will launch another Drake game, where Drake can again grab at a ledge just as it crumbles requiring him to grab another ledge just at the last minute before cracking a "witty" one-liner and continuing on his little railway line straight path to the next cutscene, the ledges will look MUCH better though. The cut scenes as well.
Also, more micro-transactions and MORE DLC!!!
Dead Space 3 is launching with 11 Day One DLC items. It's becoming a joke.
Aside from a few titles, games on this gen have been so disappointing. I don't see them getting better with better hardware.
Oakey said:
You're kidding? They're struggling to run todays games at a constant frame rate whilst looking worse than their PC counterparts.
That wasn't my point. You can 'easily' make games that run at at least 30-60 fps on the PS3.The best games on the PS3 this generation, IMO, have been
Demons Souls - ran fine.
Dark Souls - ran fine 95% of the time.
Vanquish - ran fine.
Wipeout HD - ran brilliant.
Journey - perfect and looked incredible.
Braid - Ran perfectly and one of the best games I've played on any platform ever.
Limbo - Ran perfectly.
Dragon Age Origins - ran fine. DA2 was terrible.
None of these games were great because of their graphics. None of them were being held back by hardware limitations to the point where it was noticeable.
It says a lot about this current gen when I look forward to getting things like Toejam and Earl as a classic download, or Sonic The Hedgehog, Doom Classic, Legacy of Kain etc and they still seem better than most games released in the last few years..
Edited by LandR on Friday 1st February 21:05
Edited by LandR on Friday 1st February 21:06
LandR said:
But but but... what gaming needs is more ultra linear corridor shooters with even MORE explosions and even BETTER looking things to shoot at. Isn't it ?
I kind of agree that we don't need new consoles, the problems with games nowadays isn't the limitation of the hardware they are running on. No doubt the PS4 will launch another Drake game, where Drake can again grab at a ledge just as it crumbles requiring him to grab another ledge just at the last minute before cracking a "witty" one-liner and continuing on his little railway line straight path to the next cutscene, the ledges will look MUCH better though. The cut scenes as well.
Also, more micro-transactions and MORE DLC!!!
Dead Space 3 is launching with 11 Day One DLC items. It's becoming a joke.
Aside from a few titles, games on this gen have been so disappointing. I don't see them getting better with better hardware.
Great post and couldn't agree more - sod the looks, increase the playability. I kind of agree that we don't need new consoles, the problems with games nowadays isn't the limitation of the hardware they are running on. No doubt the PS4 will launch another Drake game, where Drake can again grab at a ledge just as it crumbles requiring him to grab another ledge just at the last minute before cracking a "witty" one-liner and continuing on his little railway line straight path to the next cutscene, the ledges will look MUCH better though. The cut scenes as well.
Also, more micro-transactions and MORE DLC!!!
Dead Space 3 is launching with 11 Day One DLC items. It's becoming a joke.
Aside from a few titles, games on this gen have been so disappointing. I don't see them getting better with better hardware.
LandR said:
That wasn't my point. You can 'easily' make games that run at at least 30-60 fps on the PS3.
The best games on the PS3 this generation, IMO, have been
Demons Souls - ran fine.
Dark Souls - ran fine 95% of the time.
Vanquish - ran fine.
Wipeout HD - ran brilliant.
Journey - perfect and looked incredible.
Braid - Ran perfectly and one of the best games I've played on any platform ever.
Limbo - Ran perfectly.
Dragon Age Origins - ran fine. DA2 was terrible.
None of these games were great because of their graphics. None of them were being held back by hardware limitations to the point where it was noticeable.
It says a lot about this current gen when I look forward to getting things like Toejam and Earl as a classic download, or Sonic The Hedgehog, Doom Classic, Legacy of Kain etc and they still seem better than most games released in the last few years..
I'm sure when Sega announced that the Master System was being replaced with the Mega Drive there were people saying "why? Graphics arent everything", and you and they are correct to a degree. Things progress, and the reality is that the current crop of consoles cannot match the graphic fidelity of a top spec PC rig. You say that isn't that big a deal, and on some level I agree with your argument, but surely on that basis there was no need to upgrade from NES to a insert any more recent console here*. The best games on the PS3 this generation, IMO, have been
Demons Souls - ran fine.
Dark Souls - ran fine 95% of the time.
Vanquish - ran fine.
Wipeout HD - ran brilliant.
Journey - perfect and looked incredible.
Braid - Ran perfectly and one of the best games I've played on any platform ever.
Limbo - Ran perfectly.
Dragon Age Origins - ran fine. DA2 was terrible.
None of these games were great because of their graphics. None of them were being held back by hardware limitations to the point where it was noticeable.
It says a lot about this current gen when I look forward to getting things like Toejam and Earl as a classic download, or Sonic The Hedgehog, Doom Classic, Legacy of Kain etc and they still seem better than most games released in the last few years..
Edited by LandR on Friday 1st February 21:05
Edited by LandR on Friday 1st February 21:06
What I am looking forward to are games on the new generation of consoles that tie incredible sound and visuals with great gameplay. More power means more processing capabilities for things like advanced AI. Yes, there will always be the developers who shortcut and make something that is very pretty but painfully shallow and dull, but that has been a problem since gaming began.
Dare2Fail said:
I'm sure when Sega announced that the Master System was being replaced with the Mega Drive there were people saying "why? Graphics arent everything", and you and they are correct to a degree. Things progress, and the reality is that the current crop of consoles cannot match the graphic fidelity of a top spec PC rig. You say that isn't that big a deal, and on some level I agree with your argument, but surely on that basis there was no need to upgrade from NES to a insert any more recent console here*.
What I am looking forward to are games on the new generation of consoles that tie incredible sound and visuals with great gameplay. More power means more processing capabilities for things like advanced AI. Yes, there will always be the developers who shortcut and make something that is very pretty but painfully shallow and dull, but that has been a problem since gaming began.
Agree with a lot of what you say, but how much better can graphics get? The leaps in improvements have been getting smaller over the years but playability hasn't. Of course great graphics will always improve a great game, but they don't make a great game. If this was the case, we wouldn't have a gaming industry as 30 years ago we would have looked at Jet Set Willy & said "Nah, load of sWhat I am looking forward to are games on the new generation of consoles that tie incredible sound and visuals with great gameplay. More power means more processing capabilities for things like advanced AI. Yes, there will always be the developers who shortcut and make something that is very pretty but painfully shallow and dull, but that has been a problem since gaming began.
t".The leap from the SNES generation consoles to the Playstation 1 generation was huge in terms of graphics, but since then there hasn't been that much of a noticeable leap. I'm not suggesting a PS3 is no better than a PS1, but the graphics have grown as the console ages rather than a huge jump.
For me, it's a bit like VHS-DVD-BluRay. The improvement in quality from VHS to DVD was incredible, DVD to BluRay not so much.
Interesting thread though.
anonymous said:
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Actually the biggest leap IMO was the sound quality.People say graphics aren't everything, but games like Crysis and Fall-out are also epic games and their appeal is their ability to create credible open-world sand-boxes. And to do this you need raw crunching power, which the current gen now lack compared to mid-range PCs.
I for one can't wait for the next-gen open world games.
Bump.
Announcement from 11 (pm) today.....not am as it took me a while to notice after I kept hitting refresh! Doh.
Seems like a lot of the interesting stuff has been leaked yesterday/today already (articles on Eurogamer etc). Really looking forward to this and I hope Microsoft pulls their finger out and announces more about the 720 very soon.
Now, where's that gif of the Futurama dude saying take my money?!
Announcement from 11 (pm) today.....not am as it took me a while to notice after I kept hitting refresh! Doh.
Seems like a lot of the interesting stuff has been leaked yesterday/today already (articles on Eurogamer etc). Really looking forward to this and I hope Microsoft pulls their finger out and announces more about the 720 very soon.
Now, where's that gif of the Futurama dude saying take my money?!
Can't come soon enough, my 2006 vintage PS3 is getting pretty wheezy.
I love a console, I know PC gamers can enjoy all sorts of graphical wonders and multiplayer orgies that we couldn't dream of, but you can't argue with the box-under-the-telly simplicity or one-size-fits-all compatibility.
I'm not interested in the spec sheet, it'll be meaningless to me, I want to see some games and some new features, I remember the PS3 launch, talk of home entertainment centres, streaming TV and downloading films and I thought "yeah right" but as the years passed most of these things became everyday features.
I love a console, I know PC gamers can enjoy all sorts of graphical wonders and multiplayer orgies that we couldn't dream of, but you can't argue with the box-under-the-telly simplicity or one-size-fits-all compatibility.
I'm not interested in the spec sheet, it'll be meaningless to me, I want to see some games and some new features, I remember the PS3 launch, talk of home entertainment centres, streaming TV and downloading films and I thought "yeah right" but as the years passed most of these things became everyday features.
pidsy said:
Where is the announcement being streamed?
Sony website?
you can view it hereSony website?
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-20-sonys...
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