Black ops 2: can it be made child suitable?
Black ops 2: can it be made child suitable?
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Happy82

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15,078 posts

192 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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A friend of mine is in a bit of a dilemma as his son wants black ops 2 for his 11th birthday so he can play it online with school friends. Is it possible to turn off gore in the game/ turn off swearing etc? And if you could, would you buy it for an 11 year old?

I admit I would be unsure, but wondered if any of you are/ were in the same parental situation?

FourWheelDrift

91,868 posts

307 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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I wouldn't buy it for an 11 year old.

17+ rating - http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certifica...

Happy82

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15,078 posts

192 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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That's what I thought, guess it is tough to say no when his other friends all have it though. Thankfully I hav a few years until my son is old enough for this hehe


Johna

2,328 posts

193 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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You can turn of extreme graphic content for single player if I remember correctly but it will still show people getting killed etc.

As for online there is no way to block people swearing apart from muting all players and maybe make sure your friends son doesn't use a mic.

If he's on Xbox he can set up an Xbox party chat so he will just be able to talk to people(friends) who he invites to the party.

Depends on the maturity of the eleven year old really though. If he's sensible enough to ignore and mute the other players then he should be ok. But if not then alot of what he hears online will be unsuitable for young ears but it may not be that different to what he hears in the school playground anyway.

FourWheelDrift

91,868 posts

307 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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I bet his friends don't have it, they are lying to get him to get it first. Then they can bully their parents to buy it for them because he's got it.

If they do have it their parents are of the irresponsible type, move him to a different school smile

BlueMR2

9,262 posts

225 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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FourWheelDrift said:
I bet his friends don't have it, they are lying to get him to get it first. Then they can bully their parents to buy it for them because he's got it.

If they do have it their parents are of the irresponsible type, move him to a different school smile
All the cool kids will be on ghost shortly.

davepoth

29,395 posts

222 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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Turn off the online swearing for an 11 year old? IME it's the 11 year olds that do all the swearing. wink

Johna

2,328 posts

193 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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davepoth said:
Turn off the online swearing for an 11 year old? IME it's the 11 year olds that do all the swearing. wink
+1

Happy82

Original Poster:

15,078 posts

192 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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davepoth said:
Turn off the online swearing for an 11 year old? IME it's the 11 year olds that do all the swearing. wink
Well from what I overheard at the play park the other day, swearing is more 6 year olds now, the 11 year olds are into swapping sex partners eek

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

268 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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Happy82 said:
A friend of mine is in a bit of a dilemma as his son wants black ops 2 for his 11th birthday
Your friend's has no dilemma: he would be breaking the law supplying such a game to a minor.

Slink

2,947 posts

195 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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umm, no, the easiest way to make is child safe, is not to give it to a child.

MissChief

7,839 posts

191 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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Easiest way is to 'intercept' some parents if you can and ask what games they play!

Mr E

22,716 posts

282 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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RedLeicester said:
Your friend's has no dilemma: he would be breaking the law supplying such a game to a minor.
The (high street) shop would. I suspect the parent would not.

lexusboy

1,101 posts

166 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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RedLeicester said:
Your friend's has no dilemma: he would be breaking the law supplying such a game to a minor.
No he wouldn't, it's not a BBFC 18 rating it's only a PEGI 18 which isn't law enforced

Mr E

22,716 posts

282 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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lexusboy said:
No he wouldn't, it's not a BBFC 18 rating it's only a PEGI 18 which isn't law enforced
I believe it is since last year;
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/UK-PEGI-Video-Gam...

I suspect it's rarely enforced.

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

268 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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lexusboy said:
RedLeicester said:
Your friend's has no dilemma: he would be breaking the law supplying such a game to a minor.
No he wouldn't, it's not a BBFC 18 rating it's only a PEGI 18 which isn't law enforced
As of the 30th of July 2012, PEGI supplanted BBFC ratings for games.

Google said:
As outlined in Parliament’s Video Recordings (Labelling) Regulations 2012 legislation, games will now be classified by a single body – PEGI. The actual rating process will be conducted by the Video Standards Council (VSC). It also means an end to BBFC ratings on the front of game cases.

Retailers who are found guilty of selling games to underage customers face a maximum sentence of six years in prison and a £5,000 fine. Those who sell titles without the necessary age-rating certificates could find themselves with a two-year jail sentence and an unlimited fine.
Edited by RedLeicester on Wednesday 10th July 23:45

Slink

2,947 posts

195 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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also, I dont think kids should be playing games that involve realistic killing at that age.

its got an age rating for a reason, as they will get it into their head that its ok to do and then not see any problem with doing it in real life (not everyone, but at least some if not a few)

you wouldnt let a 11 year old watch saving private ryan, or band of brothers, so why would you let them play COD?

i wouldnt, and IMO, bad parenting

McSam

6,753 posts

198 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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Might get strung up for this, but I really think that if an 11-year-old thinks it's okay to kill people after playing Call of Duty, the bad parenting has happened long before they were bought the game.

beanbag

7,346 posts

264 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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Kids today are so used to violence, sex, and adult themes, I don't think it would make a huge about of difference but it doesn't necessarily mean its right.

Just look at music videos nowadays against those of my generation. It's pretty much soft porn today and getting worse day-by-day with producers pushing the boundaries all the time.

Then you have swearing. I still struggle to swear in front of my parents and it'll be extremely mild if I do. I remember my old man washing my tongue with soap and water as I used the word "st" in front of my sister and she blabbed on me and my parents never ever swore in front of me. Even today.

I find it terrible that adults swear without any contempt in front of their kids, even telling them to f**k off and calling them little s**ts almost as is it's trivial. I've heard it all. I find that pretty sad.

So onto video games. Morally it's wrong. If I had a son that age, I certainly wouldn't let them play that kind of game. I think violence for me by that point was Street Fighter 2 Turbo on the SNES.

Interestingly this brings up a topic that came up in a discussion I had with friends a short while ago.

Kids in the UK are trying to grow up too fast and some parents seem to be doing very little about it whereas the difference you see in Spain is massive.

Kids remain kids for much longer out here. There will of course always be exceptions but generally, you tend to find there is much less sexualisation of children in Spain, however oddly, sex is far more open in Spain with brothels everywhere and adult themed TV on ordinary channels.

laam999

538 posts

192 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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McSam said:
Might get strung up for this, but I really think that if an 11-year-old thinks it's okay to kill people after playing Call of Duty, the bad parenting has happened long before they were bought the game.
This. I've watched gory movies and played games all my life and I'm fine, it's not real. I'd be more concerned with other people online, that's where I'd worry about a kid

But that's just my view