Thinking about the Xbox One
Thinking about the Xbox One
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sparks_E39

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12,738 posts

236 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Disheartened by recent GT7 news and the franchise in general, and uninspired about any upcoming PS4 exclusives, it kind of makes sense that I should go for an Xbox One. Horizon 2 looks stunning, but in the meantime I've been reading up on Forza 5. Apart from Horizon, I have owned and really loved all the previous Forza games, is 5 a massive step back or just slightly underwhelming? I completely understand the reason why it isn't as extensive as 4, new console and everything built from the ground up and all that, but has half a year of DLC changed that? It's literally the only game I want at the moment, and weather or not I go out this week and buy an Xbox or wait till Horizon 2 is the question I keep asking myself.

Also, can I play Halo 4 and the original Horizon on the new Xbox, and does anyone know of the best high street deals? Obviously a Forza 5/console bundle is ideal.

The Restorer

845 posts

251 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Don't think either of the new consoles are backwards compatible. There was a Halo Master Chief Collection announced recently also

I thought best bundles with Kinect and Titanfall are around £350 before any cashback deals.

Baryonyx

18,222 posts

182 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Forza 5 is a lightweight and unsatisfying game. There is no doubt that it's at the pinnacle of racing game design, but it's so light on content. That has been addressed, to some extent, by a raft of paid-for DLC. So, you can have the Forza they originally intended, but only if you pay extra for it. Right...

And that still doesn't address the fact that it's missing all the great street courses of previous games like Rallye Postino and Fujimi Kaido.

Otherwise, the Xbox One is great. Forza Horizon 2 will no doubt be incredible, and the next Forza Motorsport game will hopefully be the weighty piece we all hoped this one would be. As winter approaches, so does the release of some fantastic games so it's a good time to have a console ready to go.

Jay2333

46 posts

163 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Definitely not a step back, it's a better game in the driving physics and graphics etc are concerned. Lack of content to begin with was an issue to most but they have addressed it somewhat with pack, although they cost extra :/ they should have been there in the first place for free but hey. Added 2 or 3? new tracks for free which was appreciated.

I'd say now its a quality game and one I spend a lot of time on. I believe the career mode isn't well laid out and doesn't inspire me too much to play but if you love cars and racing you'll put in hours.

A lot of moaning there but they are the issues I have, its a great game tbh would recommend if you don't mind spending extra on cars.

edit: know one is really happy with the games released now, this doesn't have enough content vs gt that has loads but all them crappy standard cars. i'd rather have a the paid forza set I think. People do a lot of moaning, you'll only ever read of criticism because people love to vent

Edited by Jay2333 on Wednesday 2nd July 01:19

H22observer

784 posts

150 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Baryonyx said:
Forza 5 is a lightweight and unsatisfying game. There is no doubt that it's at the pinnacle of racing game design, but it's so light on content. That has been addressed, to some extent, by a raft of paid-for DLC. So, you can have the Forza they originally intended, but only if you pay extra for it. Right...

And that still doesn't address the fact that it's missing all the great street courses of previous games like Rallye Postino and Fujimi Kaido.
Forza 5 is at least 35GB now and the 3 DLC tracks are free to download.

I think that Forza 5 is great value for money. Forza 4 was 7.5-10gb, yet it still cost £40-£50.

I do agree that more tracks and more cars would be nice, but can you realistically expect a 50+GB game for £45 ?

H22observer

784 posts

150 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Jay2333 said:
Definitely not a step back, it's a better game in the driving physics and graphics etc are concerned. Lack of content to begin with was an issue to most but they have addressed it somewhat with pack, although they cost extra :/ they should have been there in the first place for free but hey. Added 2 or 3? new tracks for free which was appreciated.

I'd say now its a quality game and one I spend a lot of time on. I believe the career mode isn't well laid out and doesn't inspire me too much to play but if you love cars and racing you'll put in hours.


Edited by Jay2333 on Wednesday 2nd July 01:19
100% agree. smile

Baryonyx

18,222 posts

182 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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H22observer said:
Forza 5 is at least 35GB now and the 3 DLC tracks are free to download.

I think that Forza 5 is great value for money. Forza 4 was 7.5-10gb, yet it still cost £40-£50.

I do agree that more tracks and more cars would be nice, but can you realistically expect a 50+GB game for £45 ?
I'm not talking about the size of the game, rather the fact that what you get is fairly crappy, and you need to pay out a load more cash just to get what the developers probably wanted to get in the first place. At least Horizon 2 should be out soon, which won't be as realistic but at least should have a bit more to see and do.

Stumps690

482 posts

165 months

Sunday 6th July 2014
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Sod the high street, I bought a 2 week old xbox one with BF4 for £240 off ebay, well worth a look!

Polarbert

17,936 posts

254 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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H22observer said:
Baryonyx said:
Forza 5 is a lightweight and unsatisfying game. There is no doubt that it's at the pinnacle of racing game design, but it's so light on content. That has been addressed, to some extent, by a raft of paid-for DLC. So, you can have the Forza they originally intended, but only if you pay extra for it. Right...

And that still doesn't address the fact that it's missing all the great street courses of previous games like Rallye Postino and Fujimi Kaido.
Forza 5 is at least 35GB now and the 3 DLC tracks are free to download.

I think that Forza 5 is great value for money. Forza 4 was 7.5-10gb, yet it still cost £40-£50.

I do agree that more tracks and more cars would be nice, but can you realistically expect a 50+GB game for £45 ?
hehe

Whooosh!

thetrash

1,856 posts

229 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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Polarbert said:
H22observer said:
Baryonyx said:
Forza 5 is a lightweight and unsatisfying game. There is no doubt that it's at the pinnacle of racing game design, but it's so light on content. That has been addressed, to some extent, by a raft of paid-for DLC. So, you can have the Forza they originally intended, but only if you pay extra for it. Right...

And that still doesn't address the fact that it's missing all the great street courses of previous games like Rallye Postino and Fujimi Kaido.
Forza 5 is at least 35GB now and the 3 DLC tracks are free to download.

I think that Forza 5 is great value for money. Forza 4 was 7.5-10gb, yet it still cost £40-£50.

I do agree that more tracks and more cars would be nice, but can you realistically expect a 50+GB game for £45 ?
hehe

Whooosh!
Forza 5 is rubbish, it looks pretty and drives well but lacks any long term interest unlike Forza 4. Playing it is like watching paint dry in the same room over and over again. I only play it when I've had enough of BF4, will start a race, get rammed off by a driveatar then turn it off.

We are 10 months into the Xbox 1 and it's still rubbish, the UI is slow, party chat is still really cumbersome, and there's fk all decent games out for it yet.

robemcdonald

9,730 posts

219 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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thetrash said:
Forza 5 is rubbish, it looks pretty and drives well but lacks any long term interest unlike Forza 4. Playing it is like watching paint dry in the same room over and over again. I only play it when I've had enough of BF4, will start a race, get rammed off by a driveatar then turn it off.

We are 10 months into the Xbox 1 and it's still rubbish, the UI is slow, party chat is still really cumbersome, and there's fk all decent games out for it yet.
I've had the xbox one since release.

Whilst there isn't a deluge of triple a software. I've not struggled to find games to play.

Assassins creed, forza, marvel Lego, metal gear all very good.
Ryse, need for speed, less so.
Thief, dreadful.

Titanfall - superb.


H22observer

784 posts

150 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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Personally, i disliked Forza 4 and the awkward system of menus etc.

The vibrating triggers on the Xbone controller are a massive leap forward in terms of 'driver' feedback in FM5. I can't imagine playing any simulator on the old 360 after experiencing the best driving game available on any console. The drivatar opponents can either be hilarious or infuriating, depending on the situation and/or your mood whilst playing the game.

My only major criticism of the game is that i don't get enough free time to play it these days (and possibly that online racing is a bit crap)

I do agree about the choice of xbone games though. Hopefully that will all change after the release of Farcry 4 and the Halo games.

Edited by H22observer on Monday 7th July 10:18

Irrotational

1,580 posts

211 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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Forza 5 is quite "dry" but I think that's the nature of the game itself - it is at the sim-end of driving games.

The rumble triggers are excellent - do the wheel/pedal sets have rumble pedals or some such to give you feedback on braking and wheelspin?

Watch the trailers for forza horizon 2 - some proper crazy stuff coming to the xbox one.

In terms of games - there are plenty to play - but not many triple A bombastic ones. Super time force is very cool, you also get guacamelee for free this month with Gold.

Lego [X] is a good family game. Titanfall is a very fun multiplayer shooter.

This September/October it will come alive. There is the Halo masterchief collection with Halo 1-4 AND all the multiplayer...plus a Halo 5 beta...plus Destiny (shooter MMO) plus Sunset overdrive plus...

EDIT - forgot No Mans Sky but think that's later in the year.

H22observer

784 posts

150 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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Farcry 4 is a great reason to upgrade to next-gen smile

http://youtu.be/keCb8-kDRqY

24lemons

2,932 posts

208 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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I had planned to wait until later in the year to buy a new console and I was anticipating buying a PS4 in the hope that the next gen of GT games would give PS4 the edge. Like the OP however, I'm pretty much done with waiting for Gran Turismo to come up with the goods. I've found the Forza games more engaging and while I'm not exactly thrilled with Forza 5's lack of content I think that longer term its the franchise that is most likely to give me what I want.

Originally I was going to upgrade my telly in the summer and buy a console in the autumn which is when I start thinking about gaming again (I just feel bad for sitting indoors on a warm summers evening!) Having had a look at the upcoming releases though I think that I'll make do with the telly I have and get an Xbox One now!

Far Cry 4 will be epic and I cant wait to play through GTA V again hopefully on a console that doesnt crash every 5 minutes!

Battlefield 4 is good on the 360 but I can transfer my data across to Xbox One so I can pick up from where I left off.

Project CARS looks sublime. It sounds great and there's a little note on the game's website that makes reference to playing the Le Mans 24 Hours in real time which neither GT6 or Forza 5 currently offer!!


DanielSan

19,780 posts

190 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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I'm in the same boat at the moment regarding the GT disappointment and considering an xbox one, think I'm going to wait for Forza Horizon 2, but I do fancy 5. Think I'm going to wait until after summer though when I'll play it more.

Boydie88

3,283 posts

172 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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sparks_E39 said:
Disheartened by recent GT7 news and the franchise in general, and uninspired about any upcoming PS4 exclusives, it kind of makes sense that I should go for an Xbox One. Horizon 2 looks stunning, but in the meantime I've been reading up on Forza 5. Apart from Horizon, I have owned and really loved all the previous Forza games, is 5 a massive step back or just slightly underwhelming? I completely understand the reason why it isn't as extensive as 4, new console and everything built from the ground up and all that, but has half a year of DLC changed that? It's literally the only game I want at the moment, and weather or not I go out this week and buy an Xbox or wait till Horizon 2 is the question I keep asking myself.

Also, can I play Halo 4 and the original Horizon on the new Xbox, and does anyone know of the best high street deals? Obviously a Forza 5/console bundle is ideal.
5 isn't a step back or underwhelming. Especially with the 3 tracks that have been released free of charge. It's brilliant and the 'drivatar' system, if you're good enough to have them on a high difficulty make the offline races much more interesting than any other Forza has managed in the past. If you're going to get one for horizon 2 anyway, may as well go out now. You won't get a better deal than the full console and Titanfall for £350.

No back compat, but soon you'll have the new Horizon and Halo collection to play with anyway.