Bloodborne DLC - The Old Hunters (PS4)
Discussion
Howdee,
I purchased this from PSN last night and was initially baffled that no download started and nothing seemed to have changed anywhere at all...
..Quick google and I found that the DLC had been included in the last patch and that by purchasing it via PSN all it did was open it up in the game.
The next challenge is that you need to have a character in your Bloodborne that has already defeated Amelia otherwise you need to get to that level.
My issue is that I had completed the game and just started NG+ when I signed off for the last time a good few months ago. As such I had to start my way through the game again defeating everyone between me and Amelia. So far so good and after opening the Hunters Workshop secret door etc, I should be fighting Amelia tonight and getting into the DLC.
Have any other PH Hunters signed up to this new challenge?
Steven RW
I purchased this from PSN last night and was initially baffled that no download started and nothing seemed to have changed anywhere at all...
..Quick google and I found that the DLC had been included in the last patch and that by purchasing it via PSN all it did was open it up in the game.
The next challenge is that you need to have a character in your Bloodborne that has already defeated Amelia otherwise you need to get to that level.
My issue is that I had completed the game and just started NG+ when I signed off for the last time a good few months ago. As such I had to start my way through the game again defeating everyone between me and Amelia. So far so good and after opening the Hunters Workshop secret door etc, I should be fighting Amelia tonight and getting into the DLC.
Have any other PH Hunters signed up to this new challenge?
Steven RW
My favourite game of all time. I had started a NG+ and got to the Witch of Hemwick Lane boss in September, but decided not to go further until I knew how the DLC would work out. I'm going to download it tomorrow, I'm glad I stopped where I did as I should be able to jump back in and get the new content and associated boosts before getting back to the main game.
Yes, still the most beautiful, incredible game of all time.
Yes, still the most beautiful, incredible game of all time.
Hi B,
Glad to hear it! I couldn't agree more. Bloodborne was my first dip into the "souls" style games and it opened the door to many many hours completing Dark Souls, Dark Souls 2 (NG and NG+) and part way through Demon Souls.
Supposedly this Bloodborne DLC is proper solid. I wonder whether playing it on Ng+ for our first time is a good idea... Soon find out!
I kinda missed bringing NPCs to safety on my first play through of BB. I was in ruthless mode and just wasted everyone I met, so I missed quite a few areas of the storyline and side quests so on this play through I have been trying to get all parts of the story, not just testing whether I am hard enough to beat all enemies.
Small lol would be that in the first area Yarnham (spl?) I just noticed for the first time that the burning cross in the middle of the street has a werewolf hanging from it. Not sure how I missed that detail on my first play through but I did and this time round it caught my eye.
Let me know how you go. I should be starting the new areas tonight after beating Amelia...
Steven RW
Glad to hear it! I couldn't agree more. Bloodborne was my first dip into the "souls" style games and it opened the door to many many hours completing Dark Souls, Dark Souls 2 (NG and NG+) and part way through Demon Souls.
Supposedly this Bloodborne DLC is proper solid. I wonder whether playing it on Ng+ for our first time is a good idea... Soon find out!
I kinda missed bringing NPCs to safety on my first play through of BB. I was in ruthless mode and just wasted everyone I met, so I missed quite a few areas of the storyline and side quests so on this play through I have been trying to get all parts of the story, not just testing whether I am hard enough to beat all enemies.
Small lol would be that in the first area Yarnham (spl?) I just noticed for the first time that the burning cross in the middle of the street has a werewolf hanging from it. Not sure how I missed that detail on my first play through but I did and this time round it caught my eye.
Let me know how you go. I should be starting the new areas tonight after beating Amelia...
Steven RW
B: I stumbled across this post today by accident when looking for Bloodborne chat on here...
"Sounds like a great concept. However, the comments about wanting to take the pace and balance out of the Dark Souls combat style and make it more frenetic are worrying. You have to have some ego to think you can better the Dark Souls combat, given that it's widely praised as the best hand to hand combat system ever used in gaming."
....I guess their arrogance worked out then :-)
Steven RW
"Sounds like a great concept. However, the comments about wanting to take the pace and balance out of the Dark Souls combat style and make it more frenetic are worrying. You have to have some ego to think you can better the Dark Souls combat, given that it's widely praised as the best hand to hand combat system ever used in gaming."
....I guess their arrogance worked out then :-)
Steven RW
Steven_RW said:
B: I stumbled across this post today by accident when looking for Bloodborne chat on here...
"Sounds like a great concept. However, the comments about wanting to take the pace and balance out of the Dark Souls combat style and make it more frenetic are worrying. You have to have some ego to think you can better the Dark Souls combat, given that it's widely praised as the best hand to hand combat system ever used in gaming."
....I guess their arrogance worked out then :-)
Steven RW
It certainly did work out although the crux of the combat wasn't quite as different to Dark Souls as the initial material suggested. That material showed hordes of rats and blood cursed townfolk in the combat, and wasn't indicative of the combat in the game as a whole. There, it looked a lot more thrashy than it usually is. It's still very much about management, pace and rhythm which I really enjoy. Miyazaki said that he wanted a more frenzied combat and they got that, but they clearly had a think at some point about managing the system. Players are pushed to be more offensive than they are in Dark Souls because there isn't a proper shield, and you can get health back from enemies if you strike back after being hurt, but it's still more DS than Devil May Cry and it's all the better for it. Some critics say that Bloodborne makes no departure from Souls combat other than it replaces blocking with dodging, but I think that is perhaps a little unfair."Sounds like a great concept. However, the comments about wanting to take the pace and balance out of the Dark Souls combat style and make it more frenetic are worrying. You have to have some ego to think you can better the Dark Souls combat, given that it's widely praised as the best hand to hand combat system ever used in gaming."
....I guess their arrogance worked out then :-)
Steven RW
It has the best combat of any Souls game, because unlike DS, you can't just turtle it. DS2 in particular often felt very formulaic, particularly when fighting it's myriad giant Knight bosses. Bloodborne has fewer weapons, which are better tuned and more interesting than say, DS2's massive selection.
Sadly though, it looks as though there won't be a Bloodborne sequel, if the recent reports from Miyazaki stating that the Souls games will be getting a rest after DS3 are accurate.
Hi - I agree to all that.
How are you getting on with the DLC? I got to Amelia fight, beat her and have started my way through the DLC.
No spoilers in case you aren't there yet but I would say that I haven't made it to a Lantern yet, so each time I start it is still from the beginning of the nightmare DLC.
Enjoying looking around a new area and new enemies :-)
RW
How are you getting on with the DLC? I got to Amelia fight, beat her and have started my way through the DLC.
No spoilers in case you aren't there yet but I would say that I haven't made it to a Lantern yet, so each time I start it is still from the beginning of the nightmare DLC.
Enjoying looking around a new area and new enemies :-)
RW
I've not even hit the DLC get. I've been chugging on with the main game in NG+, I'm up to Rom now and I've just joined the league. If the DLC is scaled to my NG+ level though, it could be pretty tough. I had read that the new content was accessible after the Amelia fight (so starting at night progression phase two), but it was meant for end game characters.
I still need to get a blood rock for my level 10 cane upgrade. I missed it last time in the Nightmare Mensis mother brain room, but I've read that you can use a code on the Chalice Dungeon generator to guarantee a spawn so I'll use that.
I still need to get a blood rock for my level 10 cane upgrade. I missed it last time in the Nightmare Mensis mother brain room, but I've read that you can use a code on the Chalice Dungeon generator to guarantee a spawn so I'll use that.
Baryonyx said:
I've not even hit the DLC get. I've been chugging on with the main game in NG+, I'm up to Rom now and I've just joined the league. If the DLC is scaled to my NG+ level though, it could be pretty tough. I had read that the new content was accessible after the Amelia fight (so starting at night progression phase two), but it was meant for end game characters.
I still need to get a blood rock for my level 10 cane upgrade. I missed it last time in the Nightmare Mensis mother brain room, but I've read that you can use a code on the Chalice Dungeon generator to guarantee a spawn so I'll use that.
Hi B,I still need to get a blood rock for my level 10 cane upgrade. I missed it last time in the Nightmare Mensis mother brain room, but I've read that you can use a code on the Chalice Dungeon generator to guarantee a spawn so I'll use that.
I don't believe anything I am writing below is a spoiler. It is all rather vague.
I used my NG+ character as well. I did everything as fast as possible to get Amelia out of the way. I hadn't fought ROM before Amelia and you don't need to. In fact I just beat ROM at the weekend and I had already beaten 3 of the 5 bosses in the DLC.
I left my character at level 99 which is what I finished NG on. It was definitely hard going at first (both regular NG+ and the DLC at NG+). I think the main issue was that I was rusty after so much time away from the game.
I've now made it through to the second last of the 5 bosses in the DLC. It is all great stuff. Each time I hit an area I really can't pass, I get back to the regular game with my character and make more progress and try and level up some more.
The DLC itself has a BloodRock so I now have two items on +10 and will have a third one soon as I am in the nightmare of mensis now in the regular game as the boss fight I am at has brought me to a temporary standstill. The question is whether I will upgrade my "bloodletter" weapon from +9 to +10 or my Kirkhammer which I have become rather fond of :-).
It is great to mix a bit of DLC and then head back to the original game for NG+.
Good luck with the first boss. Solo him and see how many attempts that takes you with no youtube guidance. Took me 5 days... :-)
Cheers
RW
At the moment, I've just entered the starting area of the DLC.
I love that Beast Cutter weapon you get near the start. I don't think I'll level it up, but the design looks amazing. It's nice fighting the hunters around Oedon Chapel too, and seeing how they get on with the enemies that hang around there. I had forgotten that the little beastmen critters were afraid of fire too!
At the moment, I'm stuck at the Executioner mini-boss on the stairs. I had four goes earlier on and couldn't get past it, so I'll go back tonight when I'm fresh and try again. It's not so much that he has a tough move set, or loads of health (though his range, speed and strength is pretty strong, even before he gets the Arcane damage buff). The problem is where you fight him! The entrance to the church is too small really, and getting him out on the staircase can lead to the camera going wild and it being difficult to track yourself through the fight. Staying close to him and trying to dodge past his weapon arm to hit him from behind seems a viable tactic. It also depends on how lucky you get at the start of fight, the last time I fought him the hunters had him at half health before he killed them. The time before that, they didn't hurt him at all!
I'll get there though. The summons markers that get NPC's into the game, I gather they cost one point of Insight to summon - can you summon them again if they die?
I love that Beast Cutter weapon you get near the start. I don't think I'll level it up, but the design looks amazing. It's nice fighting the hunters around Oedon Chapel too, and seeing how they get on with the enemies that hang around there. I had forgotten that the little beastmen critters were afraid of fire too!
At the moment, I'm stuck at the Executioner mini-boss on the stairs. I had four goes earlier on and couldn't get past it, so I'll go back tonight when I'm fresh and try again. It's not so much that he has a tough move set, or loads of health (though his range, speed and strength is pretty strong, even before he gets the Arcane damage buff). The problem is where you fight him! The entrance to the church is too small really, and getting him out on the staircase can lead to the camera going wild and it being difficult to track yourself through the fight. Staying close to him and trying to dodge past his weapon arm to hit him from behind seems a viable tactic. It also depends on how lucky you get at the start of fight, the last time I fought him the hunters had him at half health before he killed them. The time before that, they didn't hurt him at all!
I'll get there though. The summons markers that get NPC's into the game, I gather they cost one point of Insight to summon - can you summon them again if they die?
This really heats up fast!
I smashed the Church Executioner boss tonight. I've decided to start putting points into the Arcane stat, as I often use the arcane buff on my weapons through the Partially Summoned Ebrietas item. It gives a little boost, but not much. Until I get the blood rock, it's probably my best bet for boosting DMG, as I've already got 50 Agility and 30 Strength. I managed to get a good run at the Executioner - loved seeing the Cleric Beast back inside the church!
Continuing on, I found the fight against the Blood Starved Beast a surprise. Just came out of nowhere! Easily beaten though, now that he's lost his ability to poison. I found the like back to the starting lantern, and I've packed in for the night after getting the Constable's Trousers.
I smashed the Church Executioner boss tonight. I've decided to start putting points into the Arcane stat, as I often use the arcane buff on my weapons through the Partially Summoned Ebrietas item. It gives a little boost, but not much. Until I get the blood rock, it's probably my best bet for boosting DMG, as I've already got 50 Agility and 30 Strength. I managed to get a good run at the Executioner - loved seeing the Cleric Beast back inside the church!
Continuing on, I found the fight against the Blood Starved Beast a surprise. Just came out of nowhere! Easily beaten though, now that he's lost his ability to poison. I found the like back to the starting lantern, and I've packed in for the night after getting the Constable's Trousers.
Baryonyx said:
At the moment, I've just entered the starting area of the DLC.
At the moment, I'm stuck at the Executioner mini-boss on the stairs. I had four goes earlier on and couldn't get past it, so I'll go back tonight when I'm fresh and try again.
I'll get there though. The summons markers that get NPC's into the game, I gather they cost one point of Insight to summon - can you summon them again if they die?
Executioner: I had similar issues. I decided I wasn't going to bypass him as I had already run past him and collected the item I needed. But I just kept going back till I eventually got him. You meet him and one of his buddies again later in that area just before the first boss. Whilst I do still get occasionally killed by him, I mostly can have him first go.At the moment, I'm stuck at the Executioner mini-boss on the stairs. I had four goes earlier on and couldn't get past it, so I'll go back tonight when I'm fresh and try again.
I'll get there though. The summons markers that get NPC's into the game, I gather they cost one point of Insight to summon - can you summon them again if they die?
Summons: Yes if they die you can re summon them on the next go.
RW
Baryonyx said:
This really heats up fast!
I smashed the Church Executioner boss tonight. I've decided to start putting points into the Arcane stat, as I often use the arcane buff on my weapons through the Partially Summoned Ebrietas item. It gives a little boost, but not much. Until I get the blood rock, it's probably my best bet for boosting DMG, as I've already got 50 Agility and 30 Strength. I managed to get a good run at the Executioner - loved seeing the Cleric Beast back inside the church!
Continuing on, I found the fight against the Blood Starved Beast a surprise. Just came out of nowhere! Easily beaten though, now that he's lost his ability to poison. I found the like back to the starting lantern, and I've packed in for the night after getting the Constable's Trousers.
Yes I found I had to have a few goes till I managed to make appropriate progress to the first boss. Kept me on my toes. I smashed the Church Executioner boss tonight. I've decided to start putting points into the Arcane stat, as I often use the arcane buff on my weapons through the Partially Summoned Ebrietas item. It gives a little boost, but not much. Until I get the blood rock, it's probably my best bet for boosting DMG, as I've already got 50 Agility and 30 Strength. I managed to get a good run at the Executioner - loved seeing the Cleric Beast back inside the church!
Continuing on, I found the fight against the Blood Starved Beast a surprise. Just came out of nowhere! Easily beaten though, now that he's lost his ability to poison. I found the like back to the starting lantern, and I've packed in for the night after getting the Constable's Trousers.
You have paused at a good bit. Shortly things level up again :-). Keep the updates coming.
Loving being back in the Bloodborne world. So dark, so gothic, so much more detail I am noticing on this play through compared to the last. I actually am at the part you fight the final boss of the regular game but I realise I don't want to win as I will be on NG+2 and have to fight through current progress with the DLC all over again!
:-)
RW
I beat Ludwig tonight. He was tough, it took three goes although on the third go I rolled the dice and took Valtr in with me. He was extremely useful in distracting Ludwig and giving me chances to heal, as the first half of the Ludwig fight is just a relentless onslaught. Aside from the Blood Starved Beast, I can't recall a boss that attacked so relentlessly. It was a great feeling beating him though!
The new weapons are incredible. I really don't know what to level up - if I can get two blood rocks in this game, I'd like to have two fully upgraded weapons that'll compliment each other. The cane is my preferred choice which does a good, fast close-ish range attack in normal format and a useful whip attack when extended. Of the new weapons, the Whirligig Saw is perhaps my favourite. The mace form seems very powerful, and the saw form looks like it has a good range. Great for slashing at big bosses when you're on their flanks. Perhaps though, the Moonlight Sword will be the one as I can imagine it's easy to use against single enemies.
I'm not into the church. I had a good go at the two female hunters at the altar, and I nearly had the sword wielder down on my first go. The second, I tried to attack the caster before she could get up, but I ended up trapped and battered very, very quickly by both of them. I must say, this DLC has so far been everything I dreamed of and more.
The new weapons are incredible. I really don't know what to level up - if I can get two blood rocks in this game, I'd like to have two fully upgraded weapons that'll compliment each other. The cane is my preferred choice which does a good, fast close-ish range attack in normal format and a useful whip attack when extended. Of the new weapons, the Whirligig Saw is perhaps my favourite. The mace form seems very powerful, and the saw form looks like it has a good range. Great for slashing at big bosses when you're on their flanks. Perhaps though, the Moonlight Sword will be the one as I can imagine it's easy to use against single enemies.
I'm not into the church. I had a good go at the two female hunters at the altar, and I nearly had the sword wielder down on my first go. The second, I tried to attack the caster before she could get up, but I ended up trapped and battered very, very quickly by both of them. I must say, this DLC has so far been everything I dreamed of and more.
Baryonyx said:
I beat Ludwig tonight. He was tough, it took three goes although on the third go I rolled the dice and took Valtr in with me. He was extremely useful in distracting Ludwig and giving me chances to heal, as the first half of the Ludwig fight is just a relentless onslaught. Aside from the Blood Starved Beast, I can't recall a boss that attacked so relentlessly. It was a great feeling beating him though!
The new weapons are incredible. I really don't know what to level up - if I can get two blood rocks in this game, I'd like to have two fully upgraded weapons that'll compliment each other. The cane is my preferred choice which does a good, fast close-ish range attack in normal format and a useful whip attack when extended. Of the new weapons, the Whirligig Saw is perhaps my favourite. The mace form seems very powerful, and the saw form looks like it has a good range. Great for slashing at big bosses when you're on their flanks. Perhaps though, the Moonlight Sword will be the one as I can imagine it's easy to use against single enemies.
I'm not into the church. I had a good go at the two female hunters at the altar, and I nearly had the sword wielder down on my first go. The second, I tried to attack the caster before she could get up, but I ended up trapped and battered very, very quickly by both of them. I must say, this DLC has so far been everything I dreamed of and more.
THUMBSUP to all that. The new weapons are incredible. I really don't know what to level up - if I can get two blood rocks in this game, I'd like to have two fully upgraded weapons that'll compliment each other. The cane is my preferred choice which does a good, fast close-ish range attack in normal format and a useful whip attack when extended. Of the new weapons, the Whirligig Saw is perhaps my favourite. The mace form seems very powerful, and the saw form looks like it has a good range. Great for slashing at big bosses when you're on their flanks. Perhaps though, the Moonlight Sword will be the one as I can imagine it's easy to use against single enemies.
I'm not into the church. I had a good go at the two female hunters at the altar, and I nearly had the sword wielder down on my first go. The second, I tried to attack the caster before she could get up, but I ended up trapped and battered very, very quickly by both of them. I must say, this DLC has so far been everything I dreamed of and more.
I only use one new weapon called BloodLetter.
I'm NG+ and Ludwig was a beast at level 99. Took me MANY goes to even get past his phase 1 but overtime I got it sussed.
I'm with you on the DLC being everything you wanted. Harder challenges, new environment but still integrated into the overall game. I didn't just concentrate on the DLC and played the whole game through at NG+ at the same time.
I have cainhurst boss to finish up (nearly did it the other night but not quite..) and the last two DLC bosses who are "proper nails.." and I need to get the energy together to dedicated a night of just run to the boss, learn die repeat, for each of them.
I've got all three umbilical chords so will see the alternate ending. No PS4 owner should miss out on this game!
Cheers
RW
I had a proper burn on this this morning, and I absolutely love it. It has reaffirmed, if ever it needed reaffirming, that it is the best game ever made.
I started at the altar above the prison. Beat the two wenches on my first go and ascended to the research laboratory. That is a fantastic bit of level design, you think you've got it all worked out and then you rotate the central staircase and it all changed again! Amazing design, and continuing the classically 'Dark Souls' style design of interlocking levels that eventually form shortcuts back to the start. I took my time with it, learning what was going on and working out how to tackle each bit. The enlarged head fiends were pretty nasty if you caught a few of them at the same time!
Finding my way back to the prison below armed with a key, I got the Church Pick weapon and struck down Yamamura for his kit (since you can still summon him even if you've killed him). I went back to the Living Failures arena and killed them on a second go. I feel that they'd have been a lot easier with Yamamura present as a summon, but even so, they weren't unduly hard. I used the cane in whip form, and simply slashed at the beast when I could and spent most of my time dodging their various arcane projectiles. The meteor shower always seems to spawn on the right side of the Arcane Clocktower, so I had behind the sunflower to dodge that and just caused the enemies damage when I could. Some of the strategies for that fight suggest that you should concentrate on one Living Failure at a time to make sure you don't get overwhelmed. This wasn't possible for me, I found that I could kill once quickly when there were just three present but numbers soon ballooned to five, and of course, you don't have to kill them all to end the fight like you did with the Shadow of Yharnam, One of the best boss fights in the game, that one.
I'm now at Maria. I'll have her beat soon. her first two phases are pretty easy to exploit, especially in the second where you can just lash her once with a heavy strike of the cane whip and dodge out again. The third phase is pretty wild but I just need to get the angles right and I'll have her. I wonder if you can summon Yamamura from the door to the Living Failures and bring him into the clocktower?
Anyway, I've not yet progressed the main story past Rom, as that progresses the night phase and makes the inventory items more expensive. I will need to eventually though, as beating the One Reborn means you can buy blood stone chunks and beating Mergo's Wet Nurse means you can buy blood rocks for 60 Insight!
I think I've also discovered how to progress beyond Maria, if I can't beat her. You seem to be able to ride the altar in the church down as well as up...I wonder if that's how I get to the Fishing Village where the blood rock is? Anyway, much to see and do in the meantime...
I started at the altar above the prison. Beat the two wenches on my first go and ascended to the research laboratory. That is a fantastic bit of level design, you think you've got it all worked out and then you rotate the central staircase and it all changed again! Amazing design, and continuing the classically 'Dark Souls' style design of interlocking levels that eventually form shortcuts back to the start. I took my time with it, learning what was going on and working out how to tackle each bit. The enlarged head fiends were pretty nasty if you caught a few of them at the same time!
Finding my way back to the prison below armed with a key, I got the Church Pick weapon and struck down Yamamura for his kit (since you can still summon him even if you've killed him). I went back to the Living Failures arena and killed them on a second go. I feel that they'd have been a lot easier with Yamamura present as a summon, but even so, they weren't unduly hard. I used the cane in whip form, and simply slashed at the beast when I could and spent most of my time dodging their various arcane projectiles. The meteor shower always seems to spawn on the right side of the Arcane Clocktower, so I had behind the sunflower to dodge that and just caused the enemies damage when I could. Some of the strategies for that fight suggest that you should concentrate on one Living Failure at a time to make sure you don't get overwhelmed. This wasn't possible for me, I found that I could kill once quickly when there were just three present but numbers soon ballooned to five, and of course, you don't have to kill them all to end the fight like you did with the Shadow of Yharnam, One of the best boss fights in the game, that one.
I'm now at Maria. I'll have her beat soon. her first two phases are pretty easy to exploit, especially in the second where you can just lash her once with a heavy strike of the cane whip and dodge out again. The third phase is pretty wild but I just need to get the angles right and I'll have her. I wonder if you can summon Yamamura from the door to the Living Failures and bring him into the clocktower?
Anyway, I've not yet progressed the main story past Rom, as that progresses the night phase and makes the inventory items more expensive. I will need to eventually though, as beating the One Reborn means you can buy blood stone chunks and beating Mergo's Wet Nurse means you can buy blood rocks for 60 Insight!
I think I've also discovered how to progress beyond Maria, if I can't beat her. You seem to be able to ride the altar in the church down as well as up...I wonder if that's how I get to the Fishing Village where the blood rock is? Anyway, much to see and do in the meantime...
I'm pretty much wrapped up with this now. I discovered that the lift in the church goes down to the Church Cannon weapon, and that's about it. I whipped through the Fishing Hamlet and destroyed the Orphan Of Kos. That was probably one of my favourite Bloodborne moments, and not just because I beat it first time! The change to the skyline after the fight was interesting too. I haven't yet got the Rakuyo weapon, that fight in the well is just ridiculous. I don't really want it that much either, other than for the sake of completion!
My progress is currently halted at Laurence. What a t
t he is. The whole issue of tackling him is made so much harder and more irritating by having to get back to the boss room after you die. Two hunters, seven beastlings and that fking giant executioner. During the Laurence fight, I can pretty reliably get him down to his final form. Valtr normally dies around that point, with me going soon after. The last go I had at it, I ran out of blood vials, which spoiled things a bit. I've been using fireproofed armour pieces to boost my resistance, but I'm still getting whooped, mainly because the base attacks in his final form are so powerful. I did manage to get him into a circling lock on one attempt, when I came closest to beating him. The Threaded Cane doesn't quite work in that fight, it's a bit short when Laurance is upright and definitely too short when he's crawling, and in whip form it's too slow and weak to really do much damage. I just need to keep trying, and get to the end of the fight with more health, not trapped in a corner (which makes circling towards Laurence's small arm impossible).
After that, I can't see much of an issue with striding on to the finish of the game, as long as I can get rid of Rom without difficulty. I've put myself in a bit of a pickle with Laurence on NG+. I'm at level 170, too high to summon anyone else but not strong enough to flatten him outright. Hopefully I'll get there soon.
My progress is currently halted at Laurence. What a t
t he is. The whole issue of tackling him is made so much harder and more irritating by having to get back to the boss room after you die. Two hunters, seven beastlings and that fking giant executioner. During the Laurence fight, I can pretty reliably get him down to his final form. Valtr normally dies around that point, with me going soon after. The last go I had at it, I ran out of blood vials, which spoiled things a bit. I've been using fireproofed armour pieces to boost my resistance, but I'm still getting whooped, mainly because the base attacks in his final form are so powerful. I did manage to get him into a circling lock on one attempt, when I came closest to beating him. The Threaded Cane doesn't quite work in that fight, it's a bit short when Laurance is upright and definitely too short when he's crawling, and in whip form it's too slow and weak to really do much damage. I just need to keep trying, and get to the end of the fight with more health, not trapped in a corner (which makes circling towards Laurence's small arm impossible). After that, I can't see much of an issue with striding on to the finish of the game, as long as I can get rid of Rom without difficulty. I've put myself in a bit of a pickle with Laurence on NG+. I'm at level 170, too high to summon anyone else but not strong enough to flatten him outright. Hopefully I'll get there soon.
I managed to beat Laurence shortly after posting that, which was nice. I went back and tried again without a summon and I was dead in three hits. Tried again and managed to make it quite comfortably, with 8 vials left at the end!
I've since discovered what a handicap I've put myself at in using the cane for so long. I'd read the description about how it's a weapon of style and flair, and surely enough, it is for the show off! I love the move set but I've realised how easy it to carve through things with the Holy Moonlight blade. In it's standard from, the mix of sweep and thrust attacks are insane.
I had a proper session today and really caned it. I started at Rom, destroying her like it was nothing in one go. I carried on and killed Eileen (missed a quest step again, the fight the Gascoigne arena). Another one shot. Straight through The One Reborn, like it was nothing. Rapidly on through the Nightmare Frontier and Amygdala and on to Micolash in the Nightmare Mensis. Micolash was probably the hardest boss of the day as he can one shot me with his arcane projectile attack and his tentacle arm does massive damage too. In the end, I used the cane to stunlock him! On from there, killing the Mother Brain after getting the rune from it. Straight to the top of Mergo's loft and killed Mergo's Wet Nurse in one go. Then on through Castle Cainhurst and...I fking beat Logarius on my first go without breaking a sweat! I remember the misery he caused me last time...
I finished up having finally finished Alfred's quest and got the Logarius Wheel weapon. It's garbage, but at least I got to see his true mania in the throne room.
I'll finish Ebrietas and the Moon Presence tomorrow and that'll be me done with the best game of all time.
I've since discovered what a handicap I've put myself at in using the cane for so long. I'd read the description about how it's a weapon of style and flair, and surely enough, it is for the show off! I love the move set but I've realised how easy it to carve through things with the Holy Moonlight blade. In it's standard from, the mix of sweep and thrust attacks are insane.
I had a proper session today and really caned it. I started at Rom, destroying her like it was nothing in one go. I carried on and killed Eileen (missed a quest step again, the fight the Gascoigne arena). Another one shot. Straight through The One Reborn, like it was nothing. Rapidly on through the Nightmare Frontier and Amygdala and on to Micolash in the Nightmare Mensis. Micolash was probably the hardest boss of the day as he can one shot me with his arcane projectile attack and his tentacle arm does massive damage too. In the end, I used the cane to stunlock him! On from there, killing the Mother Brain after getting the rune from it. Straight to the top of Mergo's loft and killed Mergo's Wet Nurse in one go. Then on through Castle Cainhurst and...I f
king beat Logarius on my first go without breaking a sweat! I remember the misery he caused me last time...I finished up having finally finished Alfred's quest and got the Logarius Wheel weapon. It's garbage, but at least I got to see his true mania in the throne room.
I'll finish Ebrietas and the Moon Presence tomorrow and that'll be me done with the best game of all time.
This thread made me dig out my copy of Bloodborne last week and give it another try. I won't need any DLC for quite some time - when I got the game last summer, I only got as far as the start of Old Yarnham and lost interest - just didn't have the same atmosphere as Demon / Dark Souls for me.
However, I am getting back into it. Not played it too much yet, but did kill the guy with the gattling gun (although more by luck than judgement - a nice smack when he was near the edge sent him over to his death). Finding the werewolves much easier to kill now so have definitely improved.
Reached the Blood Starved Beast last night, and with help from Alfred.... got mashed. Actually, I lasted much longer than I expected but was disappointed to see that the beast still had at least 2/3rds health left when Alfred and I were both dead. It was noticeable that my stamina needs to improve - too often I was not in a position to hit back. Think I need to do a bit of soul harvesting and some levelling up - still relatively low level (can't remember what, but I know I only need about 7,500 echoes to go up to the next level).
However, I am getting back into it. Not played it too much yet, but did kill the guy with the gattling gun (although more by luck than judgement - a nice smack when he was near the edge sent him over to his death). Finding the werewolves much easier to kill now so have definitely improved.
Reached the Blood Starved Beast last night, and with help from Alfred.... got mashed. Actually, I lasted much longer than I expected but was disappointed to see that the beast still had at least 2/3rds health left when Alfred and I were both dead. It was noticeable that my stamina needs to improve - too often I was not in a position to hit back. Think I need to do a bit of soul harvesting and some levelling up - still relatively low level (can't remember what, but I know I only need about 7,500 echoes to go up to the next level).
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