Adjusting to a Wheel
Discussion
As a fan of racing games on console (Dirt Rally, Forza 6, etc), I just recently got hold of a steering wheel to see how it is.
I got a Thrustmaster TX Leather Edition Wheel, and have paired it with a GT Omega Wheel Stand.
I had a go last night quickly on Forza, and whilst it feels 'mega' (the experience is awesome), I was definitely worse than when I use/used a pad.
I know there is an element of adapting/adjusting to the new setup, but are there any tips or advice you can give me?
I felt like in the corners and braking, I was much improved, but correcting the steering after oversteer etc, was my big problem... I was spinning a lot!
Help! Anyone else been through this?
Thanks,
Gary
I got a Thrustmaster TX Leather Edition Wheel, and have paired it with a GT Omega Wheel Stand.
I had a go last night quickly on Forza, and whilst it feels 'mega' (the experience is awesome), I was definitely worse than when I use/used a pad.
I know there is an element of adapting/adjusting to the new setup, but are there any tips or advice you can give me?
I felt like in the corners and braking, I was much improved, but correcting the steering after oversteer etc, was my big problem... I was spinning a lot!
Help! Anyone else been through this?
Thanks,
Gary
How much does it rotate? I have mine turned down to around 600 degrees which helps a lot. I do a lot of drifting on forza (In fact, it's mainly what me/friends do) and a good shout is going somewhere like the catalunya school circuit in a RWD car like a standard M3 or something not too mental and just lap & lap & lap.
The corners there are quite good for the length of lap and will get you practiced up.
It does take a fair while to get used to it.
The corners there are quite good for the length of lap and will get you practiced up.
It does take a fair while to get used to it.
You will probably never be as fast as with a pad. Its not realistic to steer a car with a thumb so I think itll always be a tad faster as a quick flick is way quicker than a turn of the wheel.
The thrustmaster is 900 degrees which is good but switch it depending on which car it is.
Its SO MUCH BETTER than using a controller though isnt it?
P.S I find on Forza (but it may be down to how my wheel is set up) that simulation steering with a wheel is impossible. Normal is way more lifelike and i can catch slides easily etc.
The thrustmaster is 900 degrees which is good but switch it depending on which car it is.
Its SO MUCH BETTER than using a controller though isnt it?
P.S I find on Forza (but it may be down to how my wheel is set up) that simulation steering with a wheel is impossible. Normal is way more lifelike and i can catch slides easily etc.
p1stonhead said:
You will probably never be as fast as with a pad. Its not realistic to steer a car with a thumb so I think itll always be a tad faster as a quick flick is way quicker than a turn of the wheel.
The thrustmaster is 900 degrees which is good but switch it depending on which car it is.
Its SO MUCH BETTER than using a controller though isnt it?
P.S I find on Forza (but it may be down to how my wheel is set up) that simulation steering with a wheel is impossible. Normal is way more lifelike and i can catch slides easily etc.
See I was going to say the complete opposite of this (apart from it being so much better!) as an owner of a G920 wheel. I'm quicker with the wheel and use simulation steering (clutch + gear stick add on if the car has 6 or fewer gears too The thrustmaster is 900 degrees which is good but switch it depending on which car it is.
Its SO MUCH BETTER than using a controller though isnt it?
P.S I find on Forza (but it may be down to how my wheel is set up) that simulation steering with a wheel is impossible. Normal is way more lifelike and i can catch slides easily etc.
).Boydie88 said:
p1stonhead said:
You will probably never be as fast as with a pad. Its not realistic to steer a car with a thumb so I think itll always be a tad faster as a quick flick is way quicker than a turn of the wheel.
The thrustmaster is 900 degrees which is good but switch it depending on which car it is.
Its SO MUCH BETTER than using a controller though isnt it?
P.S I find on Forza (but it may be down to how my wheel is set up) that simulation steering with a wheel is impossible. Normal is way more lifelike and i can catch slides easily etc.
See I was going to say the complete opposite of this (apart from it being so much better!) as an owner of a G920 wheel. I'm quicker with the wheel and use simulation steering (clutch + gear stick add on if the car has 6 or fewer gears too The thrustmaster is 900 degrees which is good but switch it depending on which car it is.
Its SO MUCH BETTER than using a controller though isnt it?
P.S I find on Forza (but it may be down to how my wheel is set up) that simulation steering with a wheel is impossible. Normal is way more lifelike and i can catch slides easily etc.
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Im not way way slower or anything but definintely a tad slower. Wouldnt change it for the world though. Playing with a pad now feels ridiculous!
I run my Thrustmaster TX at just 400 degrees, works best for me. In forza 6 however the guys that programmed the steering I reckon has never driven a car at all. Best tip I can give you is to set the steering to normal. A cobra have reflexes that are too slow to correct even the smallest dab of oppo when the steering is set at simulation.
I bought a G920 with a racing seat after years of driving games on a pad. I presumed that it would be sit in, buckle up and nail the games as after all I have been driving in real life for years.
How wrong was I. It probably took about 20 hours of game play to get used to the wheel and I am still slower than with a pad but that doesn't bother me for a few reasons:
1) most games now need a wheel to be playable. P cars and dirt for me were write offs with a pad.
2) even being slower with the wheel set up it is more of an experience and the emotions are better.
How wrong was I. It probably took about 20 hours of game play to get used to the wheel and I am still slower than with a pad but that doesn't bother me for a few reasons:
1) most games now need a wheel to be playable. P cars and dirt for me were write offs with a pad.
2) even being slower with the wheel set up it is more of an experience and the emotions are better.
Edited by megapixels83 on Wednesday 8th June 20:10
My biggest irritation is when you go from joypad to wheel, you are so used to such a little physical movement on the joypad to steer the car / correct oversteer, that it feels almost a task to rotate a big wheel . When I used to play racing games on my PC (rfactor, raceroom) I found myself correcting the oversteer to just under what was probably necessary - a little more effort would've held the drift. Practice makes perfect!
. When I used to play racing games on my PC (rfactor, raceroom) I found myself correcting the oversteer to just under what was probably necessary - a little more effort would've held the drift. Practice makes perfect!It'll depend what games you are playing really. Mainstream games are designed with controllers in mind first, and wheels second. There are significant control tweaks needed to make a car drivable with just a thumb which compromises playing with a wheel.
Simulators are by their nature more realistic and so better with a wheel.
Simulators are by their nature more realistic and so better with a wheel.
Appreciate all the comments guys, I agree with practically all of it.
I couldn't get over how 'immersed' I felt in the game when I was using it.
I think I'm going to try and adjust the rotation of the wheel so that my rapid sawing away at the wheel will have more effect. Mrs is out on Friday night, so I'll get a good session in!
I couldn't get over how 'immersed' I felt in the game when I was using it.
I think I'm going to try and adjust the rotation of the wheel so that my rapid sawing away at the wheel will have more effect. Mrs is out on Friday night, so I'll get a good session in!
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