Helicopter Crash in Leicester
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CoolC

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Saturday 27th October 2018
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Gameface

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101 months

Saturday 27th October 2018
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Doesn't look like anyone is getting out of that.

Hope I'm wrong though.

61GT

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204 months

Saturday 27th October 2018
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CoolC said:
My first thought too, didn’t they often fly in and out of the ground on match day landing on the pitch.

red_slr

20,087 posts

213 months

Saturday 27th October 2018
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Hopefully landed with some form of control and folks could get out but does not look good.

anonymous-user

78 months

Saturday 27th October 2018
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red_slr said:
Hopefully landed with some form of control and folks could get out but does not look good.
From the film I’ve seen that seems wishful thinking frown

classicaholic

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94 months

Saturday 27th October 2018
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Witness reports it spiralling- that usually means no tail rotor so possibly caught it on the way out, leaving a football stadium is a very confined area requiring a towering takeoff & there is no where to go to auto rotate in case of engine failure, I hope the ground was empty at the time.
Let’s hope they got out before the fire.

DHE

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214 months

Saturday 27th October 2018
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ecsrobin

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Saturday 27th October 2018
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From BBC:

Sky Sports News reporter Rob Dorsett said the helicopter took off from the pitch, as it does after every game.
He said that after a few seconds it appeared to lose control and crashed into the car park just a few hundred metres away.
One witness said it appeared "the tail propeller wasn't working, putting it into a spin".
Freelance photographer Ryan Brown was covering the game and saw the helicopter clear the King Power stadium before it crashed.
He told 5 Live: "Literally the engine stopped and I turned around, and it made a bit of a whirring noise.
"It turned silent, blades started spinning and then there was a big bang."

kurt535

3,560 posts

141 months

Saturday 27th October 2018
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ecsrobin said:
From BBC:

Sky Sports News reporter Rob Dorsett said the helicopter took off from the pitch, as it does after every game.
He said that after a few seconds it appeared to lose control and crashed into the car park just a few hundred metres away.
One witness said it appeared "the tail propeller wasn't working, putting it into a spin".
Freelance photographer Ryan Brown was covering the game and saw the helicopter clear the King Power stadium before it crashed.
He told 5 Live: "Literally the engine stopped and I turned around, and it made a bit of a whirring noise.
"It turned silent, blades started spinning and then there was a big bang."
both engines stopped?? am guessing it has a rear tail rotor gearbox?

classicaholic

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94 months

Saturday 27th October 2018
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If you loose the tail rotor you put the lever down fast and enter autorotation, the noise of the engines would drop and you would hear the main rotor blades more, in auto rotation the helicopter can glide but in order to auto rotate you need forward airspeed, I fear they were in what’s known as the ‘dead mans curve’ with high torque and no forwatd airspeed, the machine will then auto like a brick & you are going straight down, there is a chance of survival by raising the lever just before you hit the deck and cushioning the landing but it’s only possible if the rotor blades still have enough inertia in them.

rallycross

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261 months

Saturday 27th October 2018
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DHE said:
Horrific thing to see, RIP to those caught up in this, hopefully it did not have a full load of passengers on board. Helicopters do not crash well.

scenario8

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203 months

Saturday 27th October 2018
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classicaholic said:
If you loose the tail rotor you put the lever down fast and enter autorotation, the noise of the engines would drop and you would hear the main rotor blades more, in auto rotation the helicopter can glide but in order to auto rotate you need forward airspeed, I fear they were in what’s known as the ‘dead mans curve’ with high torque and no forwatd airspeed, the machine will then auto like a brick & you are going straight down, there is a chance of survival by raising the lever just before you hit the deck and cushioning the landing but it’s only possible if the rotor blades still have enough inertia in them.
Yes, it sounds like a terrible situation to find yourself in. I fear there’s not much hope of any good news to follow later tonight.

poppopbangbang

2,506 posts

165 months

Saturday 27th October 2018
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Apparently on fire before it crashed and Vichai was onboard frown

https://twitter.com/JacobsBen/status/1056295939932...

Jordan210

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207 months

Saturday 27th October 2018
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Awful news.

It looks like it crashed in to an unused part of the car park. Wonder if the pilot did this to save life’s.


Leicester Loyal

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146 months

Saturday 27th October 2018
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Awaiting to hear more info, looks like Vichai was on board the helicopter. No-one is walking out of that crash, no chance.

ecsrobin

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189 months

Saturday 27th October 2018
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Jordan210 said:
Awful news.

It looks like it crashed in to an unused part of the car park. Wonder if the pilot did this to save life’s.
I would think with most crashes motoring or flying the first thought is saving your own skin and not the lives of others.

Eric Mc

124,944 posts

289 months

Saturday 27th October 2018
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If a tail rotor fails on a helicopter there is very little control authority left for the pilot to control the helicopter. Generally, once the tail rotor fails, the helicopter fuselage starts to rotate under the main rotor. The pilot will have throttle control so he may be able to initiate a descent but with the helicopter rotating it is hard to keep it all under control.

Gameface

16,565 posts

101 months

Saturday 27th October 2018
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Jordan210 said:
Awful news.

It looks like it crashed in to an unused part of the car park. Wonder if the pilot did this to save life’s.
No. They were barely clear of the stadium. They didn't have the height to be selective about where they hit.

And according to witnesses it lost power and therefore control too.

Hopefully no-one on the ground was hurt.

As an aside, I've not seen any footage of ambulances rushing off to hospital, which doesn't bode well for the occupants.



Leicester Loyal

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146 months

Saturday 27th October 2018
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Apparently a fire due to a failure prior to the crash ending up causing them to crash land.

silverfoxcc

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169 months

Saturday 27th October 2018
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Very sad.

IIRC there was a film clip from one US news heli of another with a rear rotor failure

The used the term

zero recovery situation.